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Quick poll - Do you eat red meat 3 or more times a week?

I know this may seem like an odd question in this forum, but a few of us in this post noticed that we don't eat much red meat and that could possibly be affecting our iron levels (or perhaps another vitamin/mineral). I'm curious if this is a common trait amongst users of this forum.

(I know diet discussions can be triggering for some online, please don't argue about the pros and cons of meat eating)

    I was on a carnivore diet (almost exclusively red meat) for a while. Iโ€™m not sure that my condition improved while on it, but I donโ€™t think it necessarily deteriorated either.

    wlmsn I personally, chicken eater. But now started to do about 2x time a week red meat (beef/pork), preferably not fried, but pouched. It does give you good energy and resilience for some time, so you just not irritated so quickly by eye strain and other things. But over longer time, it has has negative effects too.

    My eye strain and migraines only started to improve after I stopped eating red meat and dairy. Now after five years I am nearly cured of my eye strain and migraines.

      Seagull I would agree on milk, it starts to have negative symptoms at certain age. Regarding red meat, I would agree on long term negative effects, but occasional red meat meal should be beneficial in my opinion, as we evolved on this. The trend right now is this keto diet:

      Seagull was it just that change or was there something else you did?

      I ask because I'm dairy free and haven't had red meat in 5+ years

        If you are iron defficient and a male, Sorry to say this but I think you need to reconsider your diet habits.
        A simple supplement regimen most people here can follow and will tremendously help eye health:

        Brand of supplement is of great importance, vitamin/mineral/aminoacid/nootropic content varies a lot between manifacturers, so don't base opinion on any ingredient until you tried it from a trusted brand wiith CoA's.

        Incorporating this, along with exercise (especially neck region, eyes & getting a good monitor) should put everybody in a good start.

        Hope this helps anyone.

          wlmsn

          Just red meat and dairy. I did it originally to treat a variety of digestive disorders which improved immediately after I stopped, and continue to improve ever since. I only noticed the improvement in migraines/eye strain a year or two in which was a nice bonus. Now five years later I still get symptoms from screens, but they are always temporary, a few days of exposure to a new device is all I need to adapt and be able to use it. I will at some point do a big post on the science behind why this worked.

            Seagull That's amazing! Now I'm wondering if maybe I dont give myself enough time with the devices.

            How many hours do you spend with the device the first few days? Usually after an hour my eyes are shot so I just give up.

              wlmsn

              Some examples:

              4 years ago it took me 6months to adjust to a new OLED smartphone,
              2years ago it took me 10ish 20minute sessions over a month to adapt to a new OLED smartphone,
              1year ago it took me a 2hours over a weekend to adapt to a new OLED laptop which I then took to work on the Monday,
              Recently, it took me about 20-30 hours to adjust to some software that gave me eyestrain

                Seagull Thank's Seagull... I'll try to give new devices a little more time to see if I get used to it. I'm already there on the red meat and dairy.

                This gives me a lot of hope!

                qb74 I would probably add: Make sure you get good supplement from good natural ingredients, as those differ a lot in quality and price too.

                Also, treating an effect will not treat a cause. I bet most of people here suffer from some level of burnout, as those eye strainy macbooks will fast-track this condition for you.

                I will not debate whether this or that specific food is ok or not. I will quote that "one man's meat is another man's poison". I think far too many people blindly follow this or that advice, ignoring what their own body is feeling.

                  photon78s True, but there is an overlap too, we are all humans after all, there are some fundamental laws that equally apply to everyone, regardless of differences.

                    Donux

                    Agree. Speaking of fundamental laws, I should mention that I am reading the chapter called "culinary alchemy: herbal food, kitchen medicine" from this book which goes into some detail about making these kind of food choices but from oriental medicine perspective. Personally, I do sometimes eat red meat but maybe at most once a week, mostly less.

                      photon78s Looks like interesting read, Chinese medicine is known to be following slightly different paradigm and producing good results. Yet, I do not want to label myself as sick yet ๐Ÿ™‚ I truly believe my worst things started the moment I went all in into apple world. I feel like apart from hardware stuff, there is strong neuromarketing element, where you kind of almost forget your body signals when surrounded with addictive shiny objects ๐Ÿ™‚ Almost could be related to King Midas story, even if originally it was about something else. And now while I'm using my lenovo laptop with windows 11 and no apps for dithering or other stuff, I have realized - I have no annoying eye strain, anxiety, but I have neck tension. Perhaps my posture is not right, perhaps I need to move my head around at some point in time during a day, perhaps there is a psychological element to my work etc. And it is a good sign, as I am not falling into mental bias of "the one and only cause" ๐Ÿ™‚

                        i didnt eat red meat for most of 2022-2023. trying iron and taurine supplements now.

                        Donux

                        Donux slightly different paradigm

                        From what I'm reading, it is similar to the difference between chemistry and physics or particle versus wave perspectives. Both are useful/necessary paradigms and their is overlap. From the book, it describes the differences as viewing your body as mechanism with discrete parts like a car or computer that can be fixed by changing or replacing each part separately from the whole versus looking at body or health in general as a garden and complex ecosystem of relationships to be tended to holistically. If you change one thing, what other things are you also affecting?

                        Donux Yet, I do not want to label myself as sick yet

                        Same here. I'm glad you have this positive attitude! The role of stress and emotions is not to be discounted. Psychological element very likely some large X percentage factor. Also reading an actual printed book gets me away from looking at screens for everything as well as satisfying my curiosity.

                        Donux Perhaps my posture is not right

                        MIT made a monitor system that moves to research posture changes and health. How many people here use standing desks like the ones that can shift from sitting to standing mode automatically?

                        https://ledstrain.org/d/938-check-your-neck-muscles/34

                        Donux And it is a good sign, as I am not falling into mental bias of "the one and only cause"

                        100% agree

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