Hello, I know this is close to the health thread, but could you share what helped you when you found some help? I know one user mentioned cannabis treatment (how exactly and what please, were each in different countries here), then there was Lutein, I found out about seesicksyndrome exercises but so far Im not far enough with them etc. Could you share your treatment stories with as much detail regarding the treatment as possible?

martin One observation I've had is some people that experience our symptoms have had thyroid, anxiety, or depression issues and treating these help the symptoms. I'm not saying that's our problems, but if you've not had a blood test to rule out thyroid issues, it might something to rule out.

Hello. I don't speak English very well, however I understand a little bit. The case is, I have this freaking problem too, since years now. The "Health" thread was very useful but I didn't read it in its entirety. Can someone give me the essentials of what you concluded of that thread?

ryans I have thyroid issues as well, however the majority of my close ones or friends also have thyroid issues yet they show no sensitivities with displays as we do. Regarding anxiety, I think it is very difficult to narrow as a cause. Don't most people in large cities have some kind of anxiety? My family doctor (pathologist) has been very supportive to the problem i have with displays. He has discussed with all the optometrists/ophthalmologists i have visited in the past. He believes relevant to my sensitivity that my eyes (meaning the eyes-brain system) seem not flexible enough to accommodate to the new technology of the displays. He also believes that lenses like the Crizal do block the excessive blue light, so he does not believe the excessive blue light to be the main cause. He has a hunch that perhaps my chronically blocked sinuses affect the performance of my eyes and of the neuro-muscular system in the area of the neck and head. It can't be a coincidence that when I get Dexa-Rhina Nasal Spray during a cold or allergy my tolerance to the new displays is way better.

If you don't know whats causing your problems, you're in danger of losing your job because of migraines and eyestrain, you can't spend time relaxing with your family anymore because of affected devices, you had to drop out of school, you can't go to the cinema anymore, texting your friends gives you a headache, I could go on forever! Even taillights so driving at night is painful! etc. etc. Our lives are so focused on screens now, you are bound to feel depressed and anxious if your sensitivity is severe. This doesn't mean depression and anxiety cause the problem. They just result from the huge stress. Don't mix up cause and effect!

degen This doesn't mean depression and anxiety cause the problem. They just result from the huge stress. Don't mix up cause and effect! Very well said

degen I think you described what my life was like for 6 years in that post.

Unfortunately, nothing but time seems to resolve an acute exposure to an LED monitor for me. The pain-behind-the-eyes, "brain-fried" feeling, etc can sometimes take a few days to go back to its previous state. Even at the lowest brightness levels, 10 minutes of exposure can create a 24-hour sharp headache. My only "solution" is total avoidance, just like a migraine sufferer would against known triggers (e.g. light, chocolate, perfumes, etc)

MagnuM Do all LED devices affect you or just recent ones?

ryans I first discovered the issue in December 2011 when I built a brand new gaming PC, and bought a Samsung SyncMaster S24A850DW. A beautiful-looking monitor it was, but it felt like I was staring into a flashlight when I was using it, even at the lowest brightness setting. Then at work when different colleague's monitors would get replaced, I would notice immediate issues when looking at the following displays: Dell P1913 Dell U2413 Dell U2713H Dell 1914S I also want to point out that I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with the displays above, as others use them all the time and don't complain. The issue is likely the one typing this message, lol. I was given a Dell U2410 at work in June 2011, and it gives me no problems (aside from usual eye strain and fatigue if you use it too long without breaks) at 0% brightness, "Warm" Preset Mode, and f.lux running at 5000K. Also interesting to note that even my Dell U2410 will give me issues that feel similar like the LED list above if I revert it back to it's default settings of 50% brightness, "Standard" Preset Mode, and no f.lux running; however, it will take orders of magnitude longer time to set in (i.e. 100 minutes versus 10 minutes). I will deliberately do this from time-to-time when working on color-sensitive work, and I just put up with the pain until I'm done my work, and then I revert it back. Because of my findings above, I theorize that I am light-sensitive in some unknown way. However, I seem to be more in the minority of people here, who are more suspecting issues such as temporal dithering, or certain graphics drivers, or Windows updates, etc.

Peter If you know you have chronic sinusitis, is there something you can do about it? Did you get all other modern tests done?

Treatments, desensitization, pills, exercises - solutions

Tobiyas

GregAtkinson

Magnesium: may possibly have reduced (but definitely not eliminated) my headaches, but it also gave me diarrhea. I discontinued it

It suggest it did helped you to an extend, but the question is which type of magnesium did you take. The are a few main types. Some has caused diarrhea. Only one did not.

https://www.reddit.com/r/migraine/comments/brq1r7/magnesium_daily_dose_and_diarrhea/?rdt=61776

And you're taking the dosage too high. 250mg is the sweet dosage.

GregAtkinson

Tobiyas Thanks for the heads up. I did some research and it all seems clear as mud.

I was taking Magnesium Oxide, which can cause diarrhea. I'm going to experiment with various combinations of these two:

Magnesium Threonate (maybe take in the morning)

Magnesium Glycinate (maybe take at night)

ensete

I have tried magnesium in the past. Zero relief whatsoever.

Most neurologists will go through the routine of prescribing the normal panel of anti migraine medications (propranolol, Nortryptalin, etc) but they will not work. Those operate on entirely different pathways in the brain. But when a nuero hears the word "migraine" they just go back to protocol and walk you down the standard med path

squidward_eyes_93

I am working at a startup in San Francisco that builds eye strain free computer tablet. (I also have severe computer vision syndrome) Perhaps the tablet could be part of the solutions and improvement. 🙂

We are interested in having 10-20 enthusiastic users to receive our tablets for 2 weeks or longer, and share their experiences with us. It will also help us understand what type of eye conditions does the tablet help with the most, and helped us discover our super fans and any software bugs! It is free to be a tester.

if interested, you can email me at: tiffany@jangleinc.com

Thank you! ^^

GregAtkinson

I've been on the Magnesium Glycinate 200 mg for about a week. So far, no reduction in headaches, though some sites say it can take weeks or months to notice a difference.

On the bright side, I'm sleeping much better. (Some studies indicate that magnesium helps with sleep.) And I don't have the diarrhea issues that the other magnesium pills caused.

I'll keep experimenting with the magnesium, CoQ10 and Riboflavin and post when I have an update.

Lauda89

Has anyone tried CGRP inhibitors? I am tempted to give it a try but from what I read online it costs 700 euro per injection in Italy, so very expensive.

Hunter20

Lauda89 😮 why take risk with your health. If you need to use a computer for your work, just buy an old one (for example pre 2015 macbook) they were PWM free, and disable dithering via terminal or SwitchResX. Or if you prefer Windows use Ditherig.exe.

I know its hard to avoid computer screens nowadays, but limiting screen time is ofcourse the best solution.

Lauda89

Hunter20 I am already taking a medication (fluxarten) which is a vasodilator. Without this medication I would be disocupied for a year.
In many companies it is not possible to use such old PCs without OS upgrades.
But even solving the job problem, I am still tired of having problems with phones (I am still stuck with iphone X IOS14), tablet tv etc.. I want to get back to having a normal life and these CGRP inhibitors look very promising. 🙂

Lauda89

Lauda89 I've decided to start taking the CGRP inhibitors from the first day of March. I will report back the feedback 😉

Donux

When you are surrounded with technology and EMF's coming from it in various modulated forms, you can not expect any health. This can be that flickering visible light EMF pushed onto your face, WIFI emf pushed at 30 decibels max transmit rate, or your beloved 4G/5G mobile phone that needs to transmit as powerful signal as possible so that it would actually reach closest cell station. Knowing EMF propagation and inverse square law, you do not need to be genius to understand - only a distance, reduction of transmit power, or total shutdown can save you!

President of computing eye strain division

dyungim

reaganry

Any idea what a "typical" distance between thumbs is for someone who doesn't have divergence issues?

reaganry

dyungim good reminder. Havent done this in ages. 3” is about what i can get.

reaganry

Ketones! Anyone tried? The magnesium bhb powder especially seems to remedy the acute symptoms.

Reinhard62

Not WE should be forced to take some medicine or go to the doctor.

Instead, hardware and software manufacturers should stop this madness with pwm and dithering.

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