Real Reason for Removing Headphone Jacks

JTL

K-Moss So I'm curious if anyone has any real answers about this besides an attempt to make more money from dongles and BT/wireless headphones.

Contemporary smartphone design follows industry trends as a sort of "domino effect". Can't say I agree with it.

languidicity

K-Moss

Ok if we’re going to start going down the road of talking about an “alleged pandemic”” I’m out.

My point was simply that the headphone jack is no longer seen as necessary or wanted by both hardware vendors and most consumers. It’s older electronics tech and becoming more niche by the day, as always happens. I no longer carry a Walkman because it was superseded by a Discman, which was superseded by a MP3 player, which was superseded by my smartphone. It’s evolution and invoking conspiracy when it’s simple logic is ludicrous.

Not really sure what sort of discussion you’re aiming to prompt here, and again I don’t see what any of this has to do with eyestrain.

K-Moss

languidicity

https://totalityofevidence.com/dr-mike-yeadon/

https://rumble.com/v5ba9jx-delingpod-live-mike-yeadon.html

https://rumble.com/v6vo48r-final-warning-dr-mike-yeadon-interview-4k-oracle-films.html

Do you know who Dr. Michael Yeadon is? "I don't think you could have found a much more normie person than me."

You write: "Not really sure what sort of discussion you’re aiming to prompt here."

I understand that.

"They'll tell you about something using the excuse, the ostensible reason, while the real reason is concealed."

"People don't spot things. I didn't spot things even in my own wheelhouse because you are not suspecting people are out to harm you. You're not looking for bad motives. Now I am. I can see so many things."

Both quotes are from the third link.

One more quote to add. This is from the first link 43 minutes in. A chilling comment I want to share.

"This is one of the many pennies that dropped for me over the last couple of years. The reason there is only one category of product you cannot question or criticize is when they were first invented they had this era in mind for them. I don't think they have ever been useful. I think they've always been for that future."

Likewise, the headphone jack was not removed by popular demand nor because flagship phones are better without a 3.5 mm or 2.5 mm headphone jack. Nor have companies like Samsung and Motorola been cashing in on the removal of this port. There is more going on. You have to think bigger.

Donux

K-Moss in marketing terms, apple is a market challenger. This is a role they take in the industry. They set trends, they pick early technologies that they think will go viral, and others follow, because Apple can make it cool and create customer demand. If potential Samsung buyer sees cool airbuds from apple user, he or she might be lured into competitors product. So there is simply no choice but to follow.

As for manipulation part, I think apple has learned, when it does something it can shoot two ducks at the same time this way acquiring alibi. The same was with remote CPU throttling in order to prolong battery. And at the same time render old devices less usable forcing consumers consider upgrading. Regulators in these scenarios would struggle to win a case as defense is very legit.

K-Moss

Now look what I found:

"The cord is frying you"

"I bought an EMF reader to see if corded was safer than the wireless. What I found is shocking... because the removed the audio only jack, you must plug into the power. This turning your whole headphone and its cord into an amplifier and the Emf is not only much stronger but every part of the cord is producing the EMF. By comparison the audio only headphones absolutely do not do this as I have confirmed.

I tried 3 brands and anything using the power jack will do this to you."

So if you have no headphone jack, you should not be using wired headphones. Very interesting! Then you are stuck using wireless or bluetooth, which totally defeats the health benefits of using wired.

And on top of that, the phone companies have convinced the public to pay more for these devices without any dedicated audio jack.

Isn't this such an interesting world.

Now I read:

"Maybe we'll see dual USB C phones if this trend continues but I won't hold my breath as the wireless earbuds industry is very lucrative to these companies, especially Apple."

The phone companies in general aren't cashing in on wireless earbuds.

Another says:

"I hate that the headphone jack is so rare, especially in higher end phones. There's no excuse that can't be debunked, it's just to sell wireless earbuds."

It's not to sell wireless earbuds, but that's the plausible enough conspiracy theory they wanted the public to accept. When I search Amazon for wireless earbuds, I get countless generic options from all kinds of Chinese companies. The major phone manufacturers, except Apple, have not been cashing in. Therefore, it's ludicrous to suggest Motorola, Samsung, and any others removed the jack out of greed or for more profit.

Removing the jack makes the phone more harmful should you use wired headphones with the remaining USB-C port. Otherwise you're stuck using wireless devices right next to your brain. Neither option respects the health of the consumer. Reminds me of coercing the public to line up for dangerous gene-based/mRNA injections. There is a method to the madness.

Meanwhile, one here wrote: "If potential Samsung buyer sees cool airbuds from apple user, he or she might be lured into competitors product. So there is simply no choice but to follow."

Having a headphone jack never prevented a user from using wireless or bluetooth accessories. Removing the jack is not a feature consumers demanded. There is no legitimate benefit to the removal of that jack. Sony's high-end phones include the jack: https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_1_vii_5g-13843.php

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_NQUTJLELk

"The headphone experience features high-end circuitry for even better sound."

Those phones have IP65/IP68 protection and are not larger than phones with only USB-C. The dedicated audio jack offers only benefits, and we don't see Sony trying to cash in on the market for wireless headsets by taking away the jack. The profit conspiracy theory is a ruse for those not equipped to think and reason at a bigger picture level.

Joise

K-Moss Thank you for asking this question, I also wonder why it has been removed. Has it mainly been removed from cell phones or also from laptops/other devices?

Could you please explain your statement-

“Removing the jack makes the phone more harmful should you use wired headphones with the remaining USB-C port.”

Why would using the USB-C port be more harmful?

K-Moss

I read this: "People in 1985 would never have believed or agreed with the way we live now. They snuck it in, in stages. They had to or it would've been rejected. All while pretending all of this is organic and it's not."

That is exactly right. The removal of the headphone jack is more of the same. There's something malignant about it which is obvious enough by invalid excuses used to justify its removal. Even a senior agent at Lenovo couldn't tell me any benefit achieved from removing the headphone jack. Consumers didn't want it removed and Lenovo/Motorola certainly is not cashing in from the removal. It is imposed from above. Consumers have no choice but to deal with it or choose one of the few remaining models still with a jack.

K-Moss

Joise

"The cord is frying you"

I tried 3 brands and anything using the power jack will do this to you."

Anyone else wish to test his findings? When we use a USB-C to headphone adapter, we are plugging into the power port. It is not the same as an isolated headphone jack. However, I don't have a high level technical understanding and I have not verified the results articulated in the quote above.

Joise

K-Moss It would be great to test that. My friend has the best EMF meters, I’ll see if we can test it.

Sunspark

A 3.5mm headphone jack on a smartphone will output power about 0.25 milliwatts (mW) to 1 mW.

I really wouldn't worry about USB-C. The dongle is not going to pump out more power to the headphones.

You don't need an EMF to test the power output. Just grab an old 3.5mm cable you don't care about anymore, cut one end off and expose the wires. Plug the other end into the dongle and start something playing. On a multimeter put it in AC voltage mode and touch the probes to the 2 wires you exposed.

Joise

Sunspark Good to know!

K-Moss

Yep, I stopped using my wireless headphones 3 years ago. People ask why? I tell them, have a cousin and niece both get brain tumors next to their ears. Girl at work got breast cancer right where she kept her phone in her apron. They just shrug and keep wearing them.

Yup, met an old trucker that used Bluetooth when they first launched and he said NEVER use it… diagnosed with Brain cancer in his 60s when he retired. Always kept that advice close to heart.

Yep. I have a friend who was always Bluetoothing, even at parties. Got ear cancer. Now his ear is concave from how much they had to remove.

The problem I have with AirPods specifically is they connect TO EACH OTHER aka waves go through your skull to reach the other one. I mean that’s just weird, I’d rather just wear the damn wires

I first noticed it with jack dorsey always wearing wired headphones. Looked into it and found a lot of claims they cause tumors behind the ears and stopped wearing mine

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1974180747784388995

EMFs from many sources have serious effects on our cognition and mental state.

They cause

sleep disturbance/insomnia

headache

depression/depressive symptoms

fatigue/tiredness

dysesthesia (abnormal sense of touch)

concentration/attention dysfunction

memory changes
-dizziness

irritability

loss of appetite/body weight

restlessness/anxiety

nausea

skin burning/tingling

EEG changes

https://x.com/tylerlawtonphd/status/1974183296021225936

interesting cause i only use wired headpohnes no Bluetooth, got this android specifically cause only phone could find with headphone jack. But he shows all these athletes as well with regular headphones no bluetooth.

https://x.com/GeoffStengel/status/1974231693747011845

My personal 9/11 is the fact that this new phone of mine doesn't have an audio jack for me to plug wired earbuds/headphones into, forcing me to introduce cancer cells into my system via Bluetooth soyPods

https://x.com/eatingrape1488/status/1973595449161555979

This Man Explains Why You Shouldn't Use Wireless Headphones: He made the choice a few years ago to stop using Bluetooth headphones based on his personal experience. He kept getting cysts behind his ears, which he was told were lymphatic swellings. They would actually drain lymph.

Andrew Huberman, Ph.D., is a neuroscientist and tenured professor in the Department of Neurobiology and by courtesy, Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford School of Medicine.

https://x.com/Unexplained2020/status/1851226796936613895

No agenda, just story of moving to new city knowing nobody & no car. Had my bt hp's in 12-14hrs a day going about everywhere. I have very thick hair & never lost any even being in my 50's. 2-3 weeks & noticed lost hair all over sink & shower. A LOT! stopped using & hl stopped.🤔

https://x.com/jeffdopefla/status/1851345273966010436

Seagull

K-Moss This is not proof. These are anecdotes by people who have a conflict of interest.

K-Moss

Seagull Proof of what? What are you looking for? It makes no sense to prefer a wireless product next to the eyes and brain when wired works perfectly. A tech support agent says the headphone jack was removed to encourage wireless use to damage people's health. I was impressed he was willing to be so candid and outspoken on a recorded tech support call.

Also, is it true the AirPods transmit the wireless signal right through the brain? I wonder what that does and if it has been adequately studied.

macsforme

Seagull This is not proof. These are anecdotes by people who have a conflict of interest.

I tend to agree with your point, but for the sake of objectivity, I’ll mention that anecdotes are valuable as well, and “data” can be skewed to support a specific narrative. Many things (cigarettes, leaded pipes/fuel, etc.) were said to be healthy by those in the mainstream, and it took decades of the general population being test subjects for the truth to come out. So, while I take them with a grain of salt, I do consider anecdotes helpful in this journey of discovery/investigation.

Seagull

K-Moss He recognised you were crazy and was messing with you dude. You are trying to spin this into some silly conspiracy theory, and like all conspiracy theorists you are ignoring the obvious. Futuristic companies adopt future technologies and reject obselete technologies. I am so angry you are on this forum slinging nonesense, making it harder for people to see actually useful contributions. You are so stupid you cannot event see when someone is mocking you.

K-Moss

Seagull He wasn't mocking me. We had a long conversation that included talking about his family and his life history. I was stunned when he said on a recorded tech support call that the headphone jack was removed to harm the public, so I probed him about his controversial and powerful statement. It was a great talk, and we ended it with the utmost care and respect for each other.

Just to clarify, it is not that Google, Apple, Samsung are evil. There is a higher entity influencing some of the key decision making. It's similar to how my medical doctor wanted to give me a Covid injections exemption, but said it would jeopardize his career. He wasn't evil for not giving an exemption. He had golden handcuffs and was subordinate to higher entities. Therefore, I had no choice but to lose certain societal privileges until the Covid hysteria cleared.

My doctor was not evil nor were the corps pretending Covid was a once in a century superpandemic. They just did what they thought right for their respective businesses.

I have a more realistic understanding of the world as it actually is. It's not the same juvenile version conditioned into the general public. As I've said, you don't want your target(s) knowing what you are doing to them and why. There is a method to the madness. Therefore, if for example, you want to inject some high-tech into them, you will tell them it is a vaccine to protect them from a deadly pathogen. As Dr. Yeadon says, there's a real reason for what is done and then there's the reasoning portrayed to the public.

K-Moss

By the way, the gap in wealth between ordinary people living paycheck to paycheck and those calling the shots --- it's utterly extreme, and even utterly extreme doesn't do justice to the delta between the two. I don't understand[1] why the downtrodden public finds it so hard to believe there are powerful entities at the top of the hierarchy calling the shots. Yes, lower level people are motivated by money, but closer to the top of the pyramid money is totally inconsequential.

It is because of the conditioning imposed on the public from when they are born until they die. They are not meant to understand. They are meant to live in a juvenile state of mind.

JTL

macsforme With the caveat that isolated anecdotes (few sample size) may not be enough to go on to reach an objective conclusion for a given product and without empirical evidence it doesn't exactly give you much to go on in potentially establishing a "cause and effect" relationship.