Eyestrain solved after 6 years and multiple panels - LG 32gk850g

f3likx Hi how are your eyes now? I made a post here related to my issues https://ledstrain.org/d/963-1500-down-the-toilet-lg-38gl950g its odd given my ipad 10.1 IPS 120hz gives me no eye strain whatsoever yet this thing is burning me after 2 minutes!!

Not sure if you have used this site before https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/a51ef5e - nice breakdown
https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_32gk850g.htm a review on the monitor

Maybe something in there might help?

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/1a1f16d6
Mine is https://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/lg_38gl950g.htm

You can use the site to also do a comparison like between mine and yours:

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/917eb301a

Instantly I notice that there is no FRC on yours. Someone mentioned cables earlier, not sure if thats a thing but this is the first time im outputting a mini dp to DP 1.4, I used to be on Dual DVI, sadly I sold my old monitor and now I'm in a bit of a pickle!!

Your contrast is 3000:1 to my 1000:1
Yours is AMVA to my IPS
Yours is 93 PPI to my 111
both backlights are W-led
I have dynamic contrast also (? Sounds like changing perhaps!)
I have HDR which is disabled
Similar refresh rates
My ports are HDMI 2 & DP 1.4 vs your HDMI 1.4 and DP 1.2

Ironically in this blog for best eye care monitors the no1 recommendation is the ASUS PB278Q which is the one that was destroying your eyes! So if we compare this to your current one we get this:

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/07e0139da3

It is a PLS panel (no idea what that is!)
higher pixels than yours
but heres something interesting, its 1000:1 contrast same as mine and it also has dynamic contrast too.
It doesn't have FRC
Mine doesn't have horizontal frequency (IPS) yours has horizontal and vertical
It also has the same ports as yours

My old monitor I could work all day on, with a little bit of grief here and there but often I could game until 3am if I chose too and recover after having breakfest enough to be able to continue working again.

That one was https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/comparison/a98f139db1 and it had 1000:1 contrast also like my current one

What about Chroma, could turning off RGB help at all?

Other than this I've also found a guide on viewing distance

Im trying still with my current monitor but after 3 hrs today my eyes are ready to jump out of their sockets again!!

K-Moss I got that LG monitor, and it has a few issues. Its not a 8 bit panel, and it using horrible static dithering thats very visible with some shades. Images also look lower resolution thanks to this. It also has strong inversion flickering. Its not the worst on the eye, but its not a good monitor overall, not worth buying.

Random Which LG exactly? I made my posts in this thread quite a while ago.

K-Moss Sorry i didnt notice the post is so old. The LG 24MK400H-B is not very good. This monitor also confirmed me that AMD does color dithering, because the static dither on the monitor becomes very "noisy" when its enabled. I was able to turn AMD dithering off with regedit, and all the noisy animated pattern is gone. But the inversion is big issue with this cheap monitor.

I'm that kinda person that cannot stay in front of a screen for long enough. One of my friends suggested me a monitor BenQ GW2480 24 Inch IPS Monitor and it is one of the best monitors I've used. I couldn't find this monitor anywhere. I started looking online and I found this website: best computer monitor for eye strain. They have pretty decent types of computer monitors ranging in different prices.

So basically nobody really knows what causes the eye strain. I'm beginning to think the problem of eye strain is a multifaceted issue. For me the following measures collectively have made a difference. I can't say which one of them is the most effective one, since they all seem to help:

• Increasing the font size and sitting further back, because it's easier to focus on "far and big" than "near and small". Also, near and small forces your eyes to converge (at the extreme you'd be crossing your eyes), which is also tiring.
• Using the Night Light function in Windows (basically a blue light filter I think, the screen turns reddish).
• Adjusting display brightness to match ambient light levels.
• Using a monitor with deeper blacks for better contrast (this enables you to turn down the brightness even further and still see detail).
• Using a flicker-free display. My Samsung phone is not flicker-free and it starts raping my eyes within seconds.
• Placing the monitor at a comfortable viewing height, that is, with the top bezel slightly below eye height.
• Using a larger display because a bigger screen keeps my eyes moving and refocusing all the time, depending on which part of the screen I'm looking at. On a small screen eye movement is more constrained and feels a bit like sitting in a plane seat for hours which can cause discomfort and you feel the need to stretch your legs.
• Placing a light behind my monitor pointed at the wall to create a light bias. This results in a more even distribution of light over the retina, rather than just a bright rectangle surrounded by darkness.

I'm new to the forum, and wanted to say I concur. It's absolutely multifaceted. I went into my eye doctor complaining about neck and shoulder pain, dry eyes, tired eyes, hard to maintain eye contact with people close to me, eyes hurting during work hours, and all the rest. He had a machine to do testing and suggested rather eye therapy, or contoured prisms ("Neurolens"). I took the glasses approach, and have experienced immense relief. This is anecdotal, but if anybody here has tried literally everything else, consider giving the Neurolens a shot. Worse case scenario, you return them and get your money back. Eye therapy is also effective, though I haven't tried that.

In terms of monitors, I recently got some curved anti-flicker VA panels, and set them further back on my desk, and it's been wonderful. Sure, they have less color, but the lack of punchy colors and vividness has been nice. In addition to the neurolens, although I haven't been cured by any means, the eye strain/pain has rarely been something I think about. It's there, as I notice once or twice in a week, but most of the time it's barely an inconvenience.

bkdo Curious what your neurolens measurements were? Is it horizontal correction or vertical?

This is actually my first time hearing about using an eye patch. I'm curious, do you switch between eyes, or is there one eye that's more effective to cover?

plymn10

I patched my left eye for 3-5 hours a day for a week, then swapped and patched the right eye for a week. I noticed that the reduction in symptoms was a little more apparent when patching the right, it'll probably be different for you. I think it depends on exactly what kind of BVD issues you have.

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By the way, I'm going to see a BVD specialist next week to get a complete picture of what's wrong with my vision. It's apparently going to take 2-3 hours of tests and evaluations, so I'm really hopeful that I'll get some valuable information. If I learn anything that may help others on here, I'll definitely share it in this thread.

bkdo Thanks for the info. My right eye is the biggest troublemaker as well. I am curious what you'll find from the specialist, any info you share will be valuable. I hope it's a productive appointment!

K-Moss I'm using that monitor(asus VA249HE) but still it doesnt feel so good. Played with settings, os, drivers, etc , result is meh.

It would be really helpful to know: How do you setup your monitor and OS so you're happy with it ?

If you only have redness and bags under your eyes, no migraines etc. and you're still able to use any LCD screen, you don't really have any real eye problem, lucky you, or anyone else for that matter.

For me even e-ink devices are not good enough, because apart from amblyopia, i got my eye muscles almost completely paralized for 3 weeks after the last migraine, and still recovering from that after 4 months, and I get eye strain very quickly just focusing on anything up close like e-ink tablet, books, and can't use any lcd screens already for years, including TVs, though i didn't have means to try all possible tricks and tweaks with different LCDs, RLCDs, etc..i'm glad that anyone is managing to find fix for their issues.

f3likx The bags under my eyes are significantly reduced after only a week

hypnotic If you only have redness and bags under your eyes

Are eye bags associated with eye strain from screens? I've had progressively worse eye bags over time, starting a few years before my eye strain was so prevalent. There are other possible contributing factors (stress, poor sleep, allergies, diet, etc.), but they are much worse than expected based on age and genetics (comparing to family members).