Eyestrain solved after 6 years and multiple panels - LG 32gk850g

deepflame Would you be willing to work on this? My primary need is desktop linux but I am not a power user or programmer. I have a desperate and urgent need for a solution because of my life situation and will lose a once in a lifetime chance at getting a life back under me if I can't use a damn computer anymore. At this point I don't even care what distro. Is there anything we could do to help? If it's a funding issue I know I would put in some and hope others can too. Personally I think we should crowdfund this in general so it's someone's primary focus. We have a few very smart people here but there isn't any full time work being done on this.

JTL Oh I hope you didn't think that was a dig at you in any way! You are one of the smart people I was referencing...and I knew you didn't have the time or energy to work on this full time. I wish I had the knowledge and skills or knew someone we could crowdfund payment to so it's their job to solve this. I hate having theories and hopes with no real way to act on them directly and it seems any attempt to get outsiders to help, like the intel thread, get shut down or time out. It took forever to get them to even interact...then they did and did a lot of testing but not the one thing most likely to be our problem and said basically "cant reproduce not a problem".

hpst Would you be willing to work on this?

Well, I think it would be interesting to find out. Not sure if I have too much time though and I do not want to feel the pressure of someone whose life depends on this in my back. Hope you understand me correctly here. I am glad to help but I would assume that there are other possibilities as well.

E.g. currently I work with Windows 7. If I would have to do development work I would rather work with a Linux machine (easier to use Git, Ruby, Node, ...). So my idea is to use my Windows machine to connect through SSH to a Linux machine (or my Mac) and do development stuff there.

Hmm, ok guess your problem would also be the code editor. Well, I use VIM in the terminal. So this would not be an issue for me. However you could also use SMB or something to expose the Linux files over the network and you could use Sublime Text or whatever you prefer on Windows then. Or you can run a Linux virtual machine with VMware or Virtual Box.

deepflame I guess I should have said I stongly WANT linux rather than NEED it. I simply need a browser and text editor to work. For me at least no modern OS and hardware is strain free so if dithering is our problem and it can be shut off then I'd just as soon do that in linux and keep using it since it removes other issues I don't want to deal with like walled gardens, expensive hardware, spyware OS nonsense etc.

I had only asked because you mentioned being a SWE and brought linux up so I assumed it was your preference. About the pressure...right now we don't have any organized effort toward this so anything done is a positive if nothing else to rule out a theory. I mentioned funding because it could motivate someone to work in a more dedicted manner where they aren't squeezing it in between al the other demands on their time.

has anyone here actually accomplished true 8-bit with FRC turned off?

reaganry pro tip. if you turn the color all the way down.. no FRC/ color temporal dithering.

I'd be fine with that personally as nothing I do requires "vibrant" colors etc...I'd be fine with black and white for 90% of things honestly...but how? I just want to shut off dithering to see if its the problem and to continue to be able avoid it if it is. I don't care HOW we do it.

Seagull Monitors may have their own dithering function, particularly TN monitors which generally can't do 8-bit natively, so dither up from 6bit. Might be worth considering that there are different algorithms for dithering, I suspect I am more tolerant of some than others.

This confuses me further since the most safe displays people talk about are CCFL/TN. I have one safe 2006 Era CCFL/TN laptop panel...and one 2012 IPS/LED on an iPad 2...but every other panel of any type I've been able to try in the last year has caused strain. Every laptop panel I tried in various 2014-2015 Thinkpad's were IPS and 6bit natively, although were called "6+2" in the specs meaning 6 actual and 2 FRC as I understood it. I can't find a single panel of any type that makes those laptops usable and none of the brand new laptops I have tried in various shops don't strain me.

Seagull It sounds at once logical from a detached point of view...but also so hard to believe because it's hard to accept that things in the ms range could really take something from unnoticable to eye straining. It feels like when people argue over fps etc and is reaching. But like everything else we deal with unless we could objectively test it we can't know. It feels like display tech is out to kill us sometimes. Adding more and more noxious stuff for the sake of pretty.

Seagull I was thinking more about this and looked up the specs on my current "bad" panel in a Thinkpad..its an LG LP140WF3SPD1 and PWM free, and has a 25ms response time according to panelook.com but this laptop is still straining. I have put all sorts of panels in it from TN to IPS and everywhere from 5ms or so to 28-30ms with no success. So that feels like it can't be related to response time. Although as you know there are so many other factors who knows what combo is the trigger.