Kray I second the request for the model number. There are hundreds of these things available...

    Interesting findings... thanks for sharing!

    • Gurm replied to this.

      MagnuM Don't get your hopes up too high. This is the equivalent of using a VGA connection on a monitor, and we know some people still suffer with that. But I suspect that this will certainly eliminate the dithering from the equation. If we can find a box that we know is good, and we can live with 1080p... that makes our lives MUCH more bearable at home. I for one would LOVE to be able to play XBox One X. 😉

          Gurm Been looking to buy both an Xbox One and a Switch (Smash Brothers is coming out tomorrow), so I hope these are both "eye-safe" consoles for me!

          • Gurm replied to this.

              MagnuM They're not. Well, the XBox One might be but the switch isn't. XBox One X is not eye safe, at least not on my TV, nor is the switch. BUT, this might be the ticket for either/both.

                  Gurm I'm pretty sure the switch and the PS4 are not safe. I don't know about Xbox. My PS4 is good on my plasma but once on my LED immediate pain. I know for sure for me the switch screen is death for me.

                    Can somebody please share a link of some adapter to convert HDMI to VGA

                    I mean on my Chromebook (HDMI), MBP touch keyboard (USB C to HDMI) and MBP Air (MiniDisplay) DVI I got from amazon DVI/MiniDisplay to HDMI adapter and I'm able to connect all 3 to CCFL monitor. However I want to try with VGA, got such adapter but non of the laptops was connecting to the monitor with it :S
                    Do you think I got defective adapter?
                    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C6BFFS2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                    KM

                    Here is the exact model of the HDMI to Component converter that I am using now:

                    https://shopee.com.my/product/60326163/1062067729

                    Before using that model, I used another HDMI to Component coverter in the link below:

                    https://www.lazada.com.my/-i104316149-s105505790.html?urlFlag=true&mp=1

                    This model also does not give me eye strain, which is good. But the unit has problem, the screen would blink or disappear for 2 seconds every 10 minutes or so. I read Amazon reviews of some other HDMI to Component converter, also have the same problem. I think its a design problem, not faulty unit. That's why I decided to buy a different HDMI to Component converter (the one in the first link).

                    I believe any HDMI to Component converter sold in Amazon or other places should be ok too. What is important is that the signal that goes into our TV or monitor is analogue. That's the theory anyway.

                    Component cable can output max resolution of 1080p. So, as long as you dont require 4k, then 1080p should be fine. Another potential disadvantage of using component cable is that the audio output is only limited to 2 channel. I have 5.1 surround home theater which I cant use when using my android TV box. But despite only 1080p and only 2.1 audio, I would take this anyday as long as I dont get eye strain.

                    Hope this works for you too.

                      Another thing to add, for my home PC, I am not using hdmi to connect to the monitor. Instead, I use DVI to VGA converter, and use VGA cable to connect my CPU to my BenQ flicker-free monitor. I can use my home PC without any eye strain (thankfully). Can you try this too.

                      I have been thinking about this for a while - as I was using a W10 machine earlier this year in work but via displayport>vga adapter - and I noticed minimal discomfort with it, so I bought the exact same machine for home use - but connected to my monitor directly via displayport (no VGA on my U2414h 🙁) - Was not very comfortable.

                      Is this because analog video cannot support anything higher than 8bit or does an analog video signal not use dithering of any kind?

                      I am wondering if a hdmi -> composite converter + composite -> hdmi converter will work for as a solution for general computer monitor use.

                      I also have quite a few hdmi -> vga converters, maybe I should give some of those a try with the graphics cards I can't normally use.

                      Question: I know a lot of you have plasma, but do modern TVs still have composite outputs?

                      ryans

                      What Peter Romero tried was not the same as what I tried. I read the article, he used a different method, he used HDMI to VGA converter. Those "converter" is more like an "adapter", like in the photo below:

                      whereas the HDMI to Component converter that I used is not an adapter/dongle, it is a full converter box, with circuit boards and its own power supply:

                      So the way the HDMI to Component converter box works might be different than how a simple HDMI to VGA adapter works. I dont know. Maybe his monitor has PWM. It is important to use a monitor that you know you get zero eye strain. Only then you can be sure.

                      Anyway, if anyone wants to try, use the HDMI to Component converter box like in my link or like the one Gurm purchased. Use a good component cable as well. Hopefully it will eliminate the eye strain just like it did mine.

                        I have some legacy external graphic card Display Link from around ~2011, USB plugged to Mac, VGA converter on the other side to CCFL monitor. No improvements, it feels the same as when directly plug over HDMI.

                        2 years later

                        @Gurm did the converter work for you?
                        And @Kray, it seems the link is broken now. Could you give us the manufacturer or product name/number? I completely forgot about this thread but since I have a usable TV now and rediscovered the thread, I want to give the converter a try.

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