martin

Hey Martin! Yes; we have spoken on Skype twice! I got back in town last week and I have printed out some of the material you provided and will be starting on that soon. The doctor and vision therapist who do the prism-only therapy think the CI will be treated after 10 visits. As I have mentioned before, I am very skeptical. Maybe that will treat standard CI symptoms in their experience but my [our] symptoms are not standard. My symptoms have not improved at all doing their therapy.

I have never had a 2 hour assessment with ANY of the doctors I have seen (1 optometrist and 2 ophthalmologists). It seems you have had better luck with the eye professionals...although if I recall it did take you a while to find the right one!!

I do not need a progressive lens as far as my standard vision goes. I am strictly nearsighted/myopia...but after reading the article you linked, it makes sense. I do experience eye strain with electronics near and far. Unfortunately, the ophthalmologist I am currently under the care of is out of town but I will be asking him if he has heard of the neurolenses. If they are, indeed, a gimmick, I may consider trying regular prisms full-time...and not just a prism patch occasionally that is embarrassing to wear. I am honestly skeptical that prism lenses will help at all but I feel desperate.

The neurolenses apparently comes with a money back guarantee so if they don't work, I could get my money back. What is terrible is that you would have to pay that same price to update a change in prescription down the line! Ugh.

The vision therapy here that employs the exercises you have learned to do is so unaffordable...if CI is truly the culprit of my eye strain, I would love to solve the problem and not rely on a crutch but it comes at a steep price. Like I said, I will be starting one of the exercises you gave me soon! I just need to find the notes I took.

If I end up trying the neurolenses, I will report here! I was hoping someone else on here had some personal experience.

    martin Its been around for long and is nothing new.

    Also, the article says "...we've had prism compensation for misalignment for years, but we've never had a progressive lens that provides different compensation for distance and up-close in the same lens". But you say this has been in use for years? Do they just call it progressive prism?

        laur5446 Im not sure as they pruposefully dont disclose whether such option is available elsewhere or not. But my specialist has progressive prism glasses that he wears for both near and distance for a few years now. Id say go with it, esp. if they return money if youre dissatisifed and see if it actually helps. Im curious, let me know.
        Still, in my case, its not fixed completely. Just a lot better with a lot of rest needed and fatigue/eyestrain/headaches on worse days.

          a year later

          Did anyone here end up trying Neurolenses? I'm very interested if these could possible be a solution, any thoughts on these?

          8 months later

          I might be testing these out in Oct, when my insurance eligibility renews (1y since my previous BVD visit).
          I'm hoping that the digital measurements might be more correct than the manual ones, but these lenses sound to be helping people who have problems both near and with distance, where my issues is with near distance screens only. I just stare at the monitor, not looking around…

          …"Contoured prism is a neurolens proprietary technology in which the amount of base in prism increases (or base out decreases) gradually from the top to the bottom of the lens. This allows me to correct binocular misalignment at distance, intermediate and near in a single lens"

            daniel_mate

            I emailed them, and it looks to me there are options for near-work only, quoted below:

            We offer three styles of lenses. Our single vision, which has contoured prismatic but no add power, is meant for everyday use but can be designed to be near only. Our progressive lens is also for daily use but has add power for those who need it. Our office lens is similar to our Progressive but meant for indoor use only. This lens has our contoured prism but extra add in the intermediate and is perfect for in office use. I recommend scheduling an exam with one of our providers to determine what would be best for your needs

              I spoke to my vision therapist and opthomologist and he warned me that nuerolenses are no different than prism lenses. They are overcharging you for their "proprietary" diagnosis tool and then upselling you the product.

              You can get prism added to lenses at any eyeglass maker for FAR cheaper, and any optometrist can do a detailed exam to determine if prism is needed. I paid a $20 medical copay for my 2 hour exam, and $45 to have my lenses made. Unfortunatly they made no difference in my symptoms.

                ensete

                Have you given your eyes enough time to adjust to the prisms?

                I suspect the neurolens will give you a more accurate prism rx.

                  22 days later

                  I just got my Neurolens yesterday. I was shocked at how the dimension of objects was so different. The instrument cluster in my vehicle is angled… didn't know that.

                  Today… After working 12 hours at my computer at work,, I am a bit fatigued and feel like I have a ghosting effect on everything I look at. Plan to call tomorrow to see if this is something that will pass.

                    Tmeinke

                    Do you have to use the Neurolens all day or only in front of the computer / TV etc..?

                    How do you feel if you work 12 hours on that computer without the Neurolens?

                      11 days later

                      Tmeinke Plan to call tomorrow to see if this is something that will pass.

                      Wonder if it ever passed for you?

                        23 days later

                        I have a Neurolens appointment on Wednesday. I will be getting them and reporting on my experience and the lenses fully. It might a few weeks after the appointment though to get the lenses.

                          degen

                          Nice, I hope this works and becomes your solution. I come to this forum every couple of days and hope someone else found something that works for them!

                          If your optometrist decides you are a candidate, it would be helpful to post your measurements here (if you don't mind). I think it'd help compare with others.

                          I plan to visit a Neurolens provider once I get the COVID booster.

                              5 days later

                              I've been reading a lot of positive (anecdotal) experiences about the Neurolenses on Reddit and such. They can correct vertical heterophoria as well. I've read they take up to a few weeks to get used to.

                              They seem to help a lot of people. I really hope it's you! Because they are prism, I read they can make the "floor" look weird at first, almost like you're moving up/down when you are not.

                              Hoping they work well for you!

                              Just to add my experience -

                              I tried Neurolens for about 3 months. The first 2 weeks were rough, they were uncomfortable to wear and made my eyes feel slightly water-y. I did get used to them, and they were totally comfortable to wear about 3 weeks in. They helped with my general eye strain, but I didn't notice any improvement with flicker. I noticed that my eyes were less tired at the end of the day, but nothing super dramatic. I'd definitely recommend trying them if your doctor says you're a candidate though.

                                bkdo Do you still wear / use them? Neurolens is basically just a prism, what @martin has. In his case, prism helped but wasn't enough, he needs vision therapy as well.

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                                    ryans

                                    I ended up returning them because the slight benefits were not worth the extra cost ($650) in my situation. If they actually helped with the flicker, I definitely would've kept them though.

                                      ryans

                                      He diagnosed exophoria.

                                      Here is my Neurolens reading:

                                      Neurolens value: 1.4 BI [base in] (0.75 each eye)

                                      They wouldn’t give me the readout to keep but the picture they showed me indicated that I look far beyond the content I’m looking at, especially while doing close work. When I asked him about this he agreed with my saying “convergence excess” (Edit: This doesn’t make sense, see my next post)

                                      @martin

                                      I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

                                      This seems like a couple of different problems.

                                      Edit: See my next post in this thread for additional information on whether I have convergence insufficiency vs excess.

                                          degen Thanks for reporting back. I think this is the opposite problem @martin has; you have exophoria and he has esophoria. I hope it will make a difference for you! When will get you the lenses? Were you able to try anything in office?

                                          Does he think this will help with your symptoms?

                                              dev