Hello and welcome! Hope you will be able to post soon something about how you feel better!
Have you tied e-ink screens? That could allow you to temporarily avoid screen flicker at all, while you working over trying to fix a usual screen.
You could also find this website interesting, it is a research website dedicated solely to flickers and created by one of the forum members: https://www.flickersense.org/
I also would say that all flickers are very different and may have a different impact. Later on you might discover that you actually do not react to some sorts of flicker.

    Mrak0020 Thanks for the warm welcome. I haven't tried e-ink yet, but it's on my list if these new bulbs don't work out. And thank you for the link to flickersense.org. Super detailed and a bunch of her experiences certainly resonate with me. Amazing resource.

      Welcome! Glad you created an account. Hopefully others reading will be inspired to join the forum too 🙂. Let us know how the flicker-free bulbs work.

      Have you had your eyes checked for binocular vision dysfunction (BVD) / heterophoria? A regular optometrist doesn't check for this, even for a "comprehensive" exam. This issue is completely unrelated to eyesight being 20/20 or not.

      You can read about a forum member's experience (@martin) with treating it with prism glasses / vision therapy here. I'd try to find someone in Seattle who offers vision therapy to make this diagnosis (they definitely exist),

      You can also try to find a Neurolens provider in Seattle...they have a a machine that measured this issue and will prescribe prism glasses. They unfortunately haven't helped me but most Doctors offer a money-back guarantee if they don't work.

      The theory behind flickering light causing issues with folks with BVD is here.

      One more thing to look into is your neck, checkout this post.

      If you try covering one eye with a patch for a few hours, do the symptoms ease at all? This can help determine if BVD is a cause or not.

      ryans On Windows 11, go to Settings > System > Display. In the "Brightness & Color" section, you should see a setting for "Color Profile". That menu (at least for me) contains two options: Enhanced | sRGB. (By default it was set to "Enhanced".)

      My current setup is a Surface Book 3 running Windows 11 with no external monitors (since all of them seem to give me issues). When I did have external monitors, I believe I had to use the Color Management tool from the old Control Panel to apply the sRGB profile to the external monitor. That made the sRGB option appear in "Settings > System > Display" for the external monitor in the same way that it did for the built-in monitor. However, as far as I recall, switching to sRGB didn't make the external monitor any better. So now I'm 100% just using the integrated laptop screen w/ sRGB.

        6 months later

        Hi @cranthon -- wonder how you are doing these days? Any luck with the eye strain issue?

        YES! Significantly better. Turns out it had nothing to do with my PC monitor or the LED lights in my house and everything to do with my brain deciding to generate pain even though it shouldn't be.

        The most significant help I found was in the work of Dr. Alon Gordon and his book called "The Way Out". You can also listen to the podcast series here, which came out before the book was published: https://www.curablehealth.com/podcast/your-pain.

        This talk by Dr. Howard Schubiner (Gordon and Schubiner are colleagues) is also a fantastic introduction to Mind-Body-Syndrome and neuroplasticity: https://youtu.be/0VyH1laOd2M

        I'm typing this message right now on a monitor that - just a few months ago - I couldn't stand to look at for more than 10 minutes! And I've now been on it for multiple hours with very little pain.

        I'm not completely out of the woods yet. Some of the neural pathways that generated a LOT of pain in the past are still firing a little bit when I'm super stressed out at work, so I still get a headache sometimes as a signal that I need to calm down. But the methods described by Dr. Gordon and Dr. Schubiner have provided me with the most progress I've ever seen in 16 years. It really has been LIFE CHANGING.

        If I get a moment this weekend, I'll try to write a bit more on the topic. But do check out the YouTube video and the Podcast when you get a chance!

          cranthon Great to hear you are better. Would love to hear more on what you changed to get better.

            The primary change was a change in mindset. What I learned in the book ("The Way Out") was how to experience the eyestrain/headaches/pains and not be panicked about it while it was happening. Doing this consistently over a series of weeks, eventually made the pain go away. I know it sounds crazy. But I essentially taught my brain "you're ok; this pain isn't needed; I'm safe" and eventually my brain stopped generating the pain while I was at my computer. Again, I know it's sounds crazy, but I'm typing this comfortably now at 9PM at night with no pain after having started my day at 9AM. Of course, I wasn't at the computer all day. I did other things like eating, etc. 🙂 But I can remember a time, not too long ago, where my headaches after work were so bad that the only relief I could find was just going to sleep for the night and hoping for a better day the next day. I'm hoping these insights can help other folks on this forum as well.

              5 days later

              cranthon . Doing this consistently over a series of weeks, eventually made the pain go away. I know it sounds crazy.

              I am very glad you are feeling better! You are right, it does sound crazy 🙂.

              I have seen several folks that had mild to moderate issues eventually "get used" to a problematic device. It definitely doesn't work for all. But do you think that might be it? Or you think you really did retrain your brain?

              Would love to hear your thoughts.

                cranthon While I'm glad you're feeling better I see dealing with this problem as two sided. One side of it involves researching and obtaining devices that don't aggravate potentially impaired eyes or nervous system (certain problems like PWM, color spectrum and blue light can be quantified and potentially investigated), and the other being that some "health" changes may improve your tolerance for visual issues. To give an analogy even if you could improve your skin, you wouldn't stick a burning cigarette on your hand for 12 hours a day 🙂

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