KM oh, my bad. Well if my samsung screen on my laptop isn't easy on my eyes due to flicker then im not sure what it is. I'm hoping the discomfort from the LG C2 was due to the white leds as mentioned in the original post. I'm working out of town at the moment but this weekend I'm going to bring back the QN90B and get an S95B. I'll let you guys know my experience.
Samsung and Sony QD-OLED TV
Diamondintherough can you comment your impressions regarding eye strain on the samsung qd oled? Thanks
raven83 Sorry for the late reply, I'm out of town again for a few days but I did use the S95B a lot over the weekend mostly playing the new call of duty on PS5 at 120fps. So far I'm happy to report that the eye strain that I was getting with the LG C2 doesn't seem to be an issue with the S95B. I was mostly using it in game mode but I was also watching some Netflix and Disney plus. The picture is crazy vibrant and damn this thing can get bright for an oled. I've been doing some research all week to try and find some good picture settings because at the moment if find it's crushing Black's pretty hard but I'm optimistic that I can't mitigate this to an extent with better picture settings. My main concern was the eye strain though and I didn't get that over the weekend. I'll be tweaking it some more this weekend so I'll let you know if anything comes up then. I cant say for certain but at this point I'm assuming the eye strain on the LG was due to the white pixels.
Diamondintherough thats great news! One of my theorys is the same….could be white pixel…and rtings says the tv is flicker free at a certain value of brightness. Keep us posted of your progress! Thank you!
Diamondintherough Hey any updates on your experience with this T.V.? Sounds very promising for those of us who had disappointing experiences with earlier OLED screens despite their promise of being "flicker free." Thanks in advance!
Sunspark That is really interesting and the guys at RTings noted several times about the "odd" pixel structure and the blue pixels as opposed to white which I think may be making the difference here. I remember almost squinting when I first turned on the LG G2 way back in 2019 due probably to the white pixels. Really hoping this new tech makes a difference for folks like us!
Sunspark i sacrified myself. The s95b will arrive in 7days. I will share after 7 days of testing.
And it seems the S95B flickers for some reason and they didnt solve the problem yet. It is a software problem. Even looking at the movie of the filmed TV is making my eyes cramp.
https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/uca1mk/samsung_s95b_flickering_can_anyone_confirm/
Therefore i have paddle back, i wont open the box and give it back as it is. I gladly will try a device that doesnt flicker or has a typical OLED flicker, but this is unacceptable. Already lost a lot of money on flickery Eizo monitors.
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hayder1983 That dynamic flickering seems to be the result of a setting and can apparently be turned off: https://reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/uca1mk/samsung_s95b_flickering_can_anyone_confirm/i7r9wl4?context=3
In general, a lot of patience is required when buying a new TV and trying to find the right settings.
Edit: another solution: https://reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/uca1mk/samsung_s95b_flickering_can_anyone_confirm/iwz0aqr?context=3
KM To turn off peak brightness reduction is a bit of a no go for my eyes. I need a working ABL without flashes/flicker. I think right now i will skip buying a new TV.
From rtings:
The Peak Brightness setting is unique to the Samsung S95B for Samsung TVs. It adjusts the Automatic Brightness Limiter, or ABL, which limits the brightness of the display depending on the content shown, which can be distracting at times. For our testing, we set it to 'High', as this setting delivers the highest peak brightness. This also results in the most aggressive ABL, though, so you should try different settings to find the one that looks best to you. The 'Off' setting effectively disables ABL entirely but results in a much lower peak brightness overall. There's almost no difference between the 'On' and the 'High' setting.
Looks like the perfect solution to me. Less brightness, and no flicker. Win-win for the eyes. But maybe you have requirements that go beyond eye strain, then just ignore my comments.
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KM Tvs now are much brighter than the tvs of previous years, 20 of brightness can be 110 from previous tvs, also it seems that the photodiode that rtings uses is not sensitive enough to detect some high speed pwm and even worse Samsung is the worst regarding eye comfort and care, almost all their display devices are eyes and brains destroyer.
Abeabe my current TV is capped at 400 nits. This is too bright for me. The Samsung goes up to 1400 nits. And they are trying to get even higher.
Greetings all,
Hope everyone who celebrates had a great thanksgiving holiday! I have thrown myself into the fray and purchased a S95B on a Black Friday deal, it will arrive here Wednesday 11/30. I would say I'm on the higher sensitivity side when it comes to screens so if I can manage to get this to work for me eyes, it's quite likely anyone could! The people talking about brightness are correct, and strabismus historically was understood as an aversion or intolerance to bright light. Hippocrates himself described strabismus in his writings. I've had "wondering eye" or strabismus since I was a new born. My mother told me that the doctor saw one of my eyes out of alignment at my two week well check! Based on research I've done related to other chronic illness issues I have, strabismus might be, at least in part, related to genetic SNP's that effect ones ability to "methylate" and consequently detoxify the body. In any case, I will be doing extensive testing on this set in the hopes that I can get it work. Will report back my findings.
Diamondintherough hi there how is your experience with qd oled? Thanks
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Okay I just got the TV (Samsung S95B) this morning so I wanted to share my initial findings with ya'll.
When I first turned on and set up the T.V. I had ZERO symptoms, which is very atypical for me, as the headaches and eye cramping usually start immediately. So that was an exciting and promising thing. I quickly connected my PS5 and once I switched sources I was hit really hard with the typical symptoms of dizziness/vertigo, eye cramping etc. Ironically, it was the TV switching to "game mode" that triggered the symptoms. Took me about 30 mins to get past that symptom trigger. I reset the T.V. to default settings and started over. No symptoms once picture settings were back to default after the reset.
However, when I switched to a source that had HDR capability (Nvidia Shield in my case) I had some symptoms come back. I discovered that T.V. out of the box has all motion software disabled by default, but when an HDR source is detected it turns all that stuff "on." So I went through and switched it all off, and the T.V. was better to look at, but not quite as good as the "out of the box" (SDR?) picture mode. So something is happening with the HDR sources that changes the viewing experience. The T.V. even displays some text explaining that it's switching to a "UHD" mode because it detected that source. Both my shield and my ps5 gave me no symptoms on my previous T.V.
I've only had time to watch one HDR piece of content (Disney+ show) for about an hour with all the motion settings off. I can't say I had ZERO symptoms, but the T.V. was much more tolerable to look at, even compared to other LCD screens I've tried.
My return deadline is not until Jan 31st, so I plan on doing A LOT more testing especially with game mode which should theoretically be better. One thing I noted is that the T.V. got quite a bit brighter in game mode, which may be a part of the issue. But that's all I have for now folks. It's not exactly the dream, but there might be some workable solutions with this set. I'll report back with any significant findings and please sound off if you have found any workaround yourselves. Thanks!
voidv2 okay quick update:
I messed with some settings and was able to get game mode to a far better place. However, one lingering issue is that I am still having residual dizziness side effects when gaming OR watching HDR content. It's quite subtle but it's there and if I am going to keep the T.V. I need that to not be the case.
Does anyone have any tips on settings I can change that have worked on other TV's that might help with the dizziness. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I tried the "eye comfort" mode, but that inexplicably turned on a whole bunch of motion settings and just didn't really work overall. Another confounding factor I need to work out is that I have been taking Advil almost daily because I am fighting a pretty gnarly sinus infection. My hope is that the anti-inflammatory and pain relieving properties are not obscuring other side effects of the T.V. I will keep you all updated ofc once I am no longer taking Advil consistently.