Recommendations for new monitor

EyeDiscomfortCertificate No there is no "only two panel manufacturers" and Samsung does not produce any panels since 2018(?), however the do design their panels and outsource their manufacture to CSOT and AUO. Now there 4 major IPS panel manufacturers (BOE - by far the market leader these days, LG, Innolux, AUO) and 3 major IPS panel manufacturers (Innolux, AUO, CSOT). Neither LG nor Samsung put their panels in their monitors- LG uses exclusively BOE and Samsung does not make panels at all.

In addition. I wouldn't be surprised if certain brands insisted on higher quality quality of panels versus others because i.e AliExpress has sellers claiming to sell same panels known to be used in certain high end monitors but sometimes at a discount and the cynic in me wouldn't be surprised if they ended up being "B grade" or thereabouts from same factories.

On a related note NEC and Panasonic largely divested themselves of the high end monitor market a few years ago, so that's another potential curveball towards quality.

I have a BenQ GW2780 and can use it with minimal issues. I was set on upgrading to an Eizo 2760, but I am reading negative things about newer Eizo monitors which worries me. My current monitor and the Eizo Flexscan models both bost some sort of "flicker free" brightness control, but only Eizo explicitly states they use a hybrid approach which I translate as them using high frequency PWM on mid to lower brightness levels. I haven't seen any information from BenQ stating how they implement their "flicker free" method.

I have grown to despise HDR. Many panels offered today want a piece of the P3 color space or something equivalent. That's impossible on an 8 bit monitor without FRC.

Since I don't bother with HDR, I thought Eizo Flexscan montiors would fit my requirements for a "high end" 8 bit monitor that doesn't attempt to exceed the sRGB color space. I suppose finding that quality in a monitor that uses zero PWM doesn't seem obtainable right now.

Small update: the new AMD 7900X + 1660 super PC keeps giving me problems with my Alienware aw2518hf monitor, so I tried to buy a new 27" 2K 144hz 8 bit VA monitor without FRC but the situation doesn't change, massive dizziness.

Today I tried connecting the PC to my LG B8 OLED TV and with that the situation improved drastically. I need to do more tests because I still have some dizziness/headache from yesterday, but it seems perfect with the OLED TV.

I was already planning to buy LG's new 27" OLED 240HZ (27GR95QE) however it's an 8bit + FRC.. so I'm considering whether it's better to buy the Alienware AW3423DW which is a 10bit?!

Lauda89 buy a other TV, and use it as a monitor. You just have to be farther away than usual.

TrantaLocked i think, for the most of us the problem is in the LED backlit. Monitors/TV's which uses LED backlit are more agressive on eyes/brain!

Well since no one here was actually helpful, I ended up rolling the dice with an omen 25i. Decent enough for gaming, and the polarization is horizontal and works decent enough for my eyes. No splitting head ache and can look at it for a decent amount of time. Could there be better monitors out there… perhaps but this was enough for my use case.

Lauda89 Another update: I tried the samsung G8 OLED with the 7900X and with the 1660super but the situation is still the same: dizziness.

Desperate, I decided to change the 7900X and motherboard with a 13700K. Because i can use the Accenture PC with W11 21H2 + i5 1145G7 with the uperfect 17" portable monitor and my old CCFL.

So i changed the MB, the CPU, installed W11 21H2 but nothing change, still sick with every monitor i got.

The iGPU is different to be precise because the 13700K has a UHD 770 while the 1145G7 has the Xe. Maybe this is the reason but I am beginning to think that the motherboard plays a very important role.

The old perfect PC (1700X+RX 480) I "destroyed" it two weeks ago by updating the motherboard bios for the purpose of changing the CPU. Putting the old bios back didn't fix the problem.

Lauda89 Putting the old bios back didn't fix the problem

You were able to downgrade the BIOS? Is the VBIOS separate?

Sunspark Don't know about the motherboard he has, but I'm aware of certain motherboards that store user configuration and other variables in nonvolatile storage and use the lack of power as a cue to potentially clear it, rather than the "old" practice of storing the config in RAM or similarly power backed storage that would be blanked upon removing all power. What is the difference? I've seen evidence the former isn't entirely perfect due to potential firmware bugs.

Practically, not much difference, but flashing a new bios by itself does not reset/clear settings. Manually pressing reset-to-defaults may work, but that is dependent on an understanding of how the function works. What is it doing? Is it just writing in values it knows about and is visible in the user interface, or does it blank the whole thing? The fact that it doesn't reset the clock indicates to me that it doesn't blank everything and maybe it's accessing values that a different bios version set in the memory. So, if he's complaining about his computer being "different" despite a downgrade, there is value in clearing the bios nvram by removing the battery. I've done it plenty of times on my NUC, there is no risk on a modern system, this isn't a glitchy network router from 15 years ago.

Sunspark I wasn't implying a risk, more so the fact modern BIOS's operate using nonvolatile storage that's usually shared with the flashed image and attempting a "reset" by removing the battery does not necessarily guarantee all nonvolatile storage is cleared as a result.

If you want to go further into this you can use an external programmer to read out and manipulate the BIOS flash out of band.

I hadn't considered that he might have a motherboard that doesn't clear any settings at all even without the cmos battery present.

Thankfully mine isn't one of those.

Thanks, guys for the replies!
I have an ASUS crosshair vi hero, there is a specific bottom on the back to do a CMOS but it didn't fix the problem.
Today i want to try to remove the battery and let see if it works.

I didn't think the motherboard bios was related to our problems. I am beginning to think that the image rendering is not the real problem.

Lauda89

Hi,

After a while I am returning back to this issue, mine is with a new 12400 intel based system if you remember. Just a question - did you try to insert the 1660 super to your old amd 1700-based system (when it still worked)? If so was the GPU output good or not?

Lauda89 With the battery method the time is reset but still dizziness. Well i fucked up my old system, now i know to not upgrade the BIOS for the future.

machala
I can give you a summary:

OLD system:

1700X + RX480 + Alienware monitor was good until W10 1909/2004.

New system november:

7900X + RX480 bad with eveythings i tried:

Old W10, W11, alienware monitor AW2518HF and BENQ CCFL V2400W monitor.

7900X + 1660 Super the same.

7900X + 970 the same.

So i decide to buy an intel CPU and try to use it with the BENQ CCFL monitor like i am doing with the accenture notebook: dell latitude 7420 intel 1145G7 xe ipgu.

New system march:

13700K + 970 + W11 21H2 (like the latitude 7420) is bad with the alienware, BENQ CCFL and also with the portable monitor UPERFECT 17". Maybe the UHD 770 do something different then the Xe igpu or maybe is the motherborard and its bios the problem?! I don't know.
So not a great idea, other 800€ to the bin. I will try the LG OLED monitor 27GR95QE as soon as it will be available in Italy.