Quad43 go to setting - display - advanced you can change the refresh rate in there also I have screen calibration set to vivid and the brightness set to adaptive.

    neca980 It thoughts that doesnt't matter AMOLED or IPS or TN… The reason is something else

        By the way? Does everyone know modern device(laptop or phone) that is good for eyes? I just can use monitors elder than 2012 and phones elder than 2016

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        I tried using the Samsung A32 5G with LCD screen at several points over the last few months. At first sometimes I thought it was okay, but always it eventually brought worse pain.

        Verdict: Significantly worse than iPhone SE 2020 (which is already not that great, but the only semi-usable phone I have).

        I've been testing some new devices recently.

        I've definitely confirmed (at least for me personally), that all Amoled/oled screens, regardless of whether they have a dc dimming/flicker free mode - do not bode well for my eyes.

        I always seem to experience eye strain no matter what.

        Recent experience is with the Honor 50 (Huawei nova 9). The phone is amoled, with the flicker free mode always activated by default (a new type of amoled screen tech they are advertising/promoting. It is also a true 10 bit display.

        I used the device for 3 days, and the eye strain was almost immediate. Video's/YouTube was watchable, punchy colors etc, but when reading articles and scrolling blogs,whatsapp messages etc, the eye strain would immediately appear and cause discomfort.

        There is something very odd about amoled/oled displays for me personally. I cannot put my finger on it, and I'm irritated at the fact that I react to it so negatively and it severely limits my choices in smartphones.

        I've also tried the realme GT and the Realme GT master editions. Both amoleds. Both caused eye strain/fatigue after playing around with them for an hour or so.

        For anyone who is interested:

        The following devices (with some screen brightness tweaking and night/bluelight/active reading modes enabled), have been ok for me.

        Poco m3 pro/redmi note 10 5g (The best ones so far for me) in terms of comfort (especially with their reading modes activated). Absolutely no strain or fatigue, and totally flicker free.

        Motorola G100 - The stock blue light filter is practically useless, but downloading a third party filter app, and then using the device, makes it quite easy on the eyes when reading articles etc.

        Redmi Note 9t (absolutely no flickering detected, even with the screen brightness set to under 10%, however, I can only really use it with the screen brightness set low, otherwise the light from the lcd screen seems way too harsh, but doesn't cause strain in the conventional sense. It just feels too piercing at higher brightness levels.

        I also used my cousins Realme 8 5g for about 30 mins to test it. Screen had a very noticeable blue tint, but didn't seem to cause me any strain. The screen however, was very drab and lifeless and not great for youtube videos, but seems great for reading web articles. Not sure if it is due to a lack of contrast.

        Poco x3 pro - (screen brightness set to 50% or above, with reading mode activated). Minimal eye strain or fatigue. But when I set the screen to lower than 50% brightness, I start feeling that strange strain.

        Regarding LCD displays, I think the comfort level has a lot to do with how well the manufacturers have tweaked the contrast, hues, dpi's, ppi's etc. For me, a slightly dimmer amber tinted screen with a good contrast level works for my eyes, and minimizes strain.

        I don't think however, that this is a case of one size fitting all. Everyone's personal choice and preferences are different, and I wish manufacturers would allow us the option to fully customize the display settings for contrast, hues, brightess etc etc within a settings menu, like they do on monitors.

        Hope this info may help other eye strained individuals out there!

          I am considering the Moto G100 because of a few points: it has LCD, it has 90Hz, it has acceptable cameras, good battery, it's pretty new so it will get Android 12. Not sure if this is a good thing considering the new design language of android. Basically it's a bit more future proof. But that size… I'm pretty sure it doesn't fit in pockets. Looking at released phones with LCD, the norm seems to be around 6.5". The only decent size phone with good LCD and cameras is Huawei P20, but that is already old. It's kind of a compromise, get used to big size and new phone or use old phones with decent size…

          I also considered switching to iPhone 11 and maybe a mac with M1, but then I like windows and I saw terrifying 🙂 threads about users not being able to use new macs because of dithering. Also I've read some users reviews saying that iphone 11 was actually hard on eyes because of the low ppi.

          Decisions, decisions…

            ban hey, Was/am in a similar boat but I’m not moving from apple.
            I have iPhone XS that has been usable for years- providing reduce white point is on and motion off. I’ve smashed the screen, still usable but not for long! I’ve tried iPhone 12 and 13 but both make me nauseous-there’s this yellow tinge and it’s less still. Think I’m going to have to bite the bullet and get new screen through apple as i tried a cheaper one and it was awful. Probably get a new screen and new battery and keep this forever! It’s oled but usable- I’ve tried the 11 that gives me nausea!
            I am using the new MacBook Pro M1 now and it’s the most usable laptop I’ve had out of close to 10 I’ve tried the past 2 years! So I’m keeping it and using it in short bursts. Much easier than anything else even though previous MacBooks were unusable for me- so I’d recommend giving it a try and playing with settings. At the moment it worth with reduce white point/gamma and on lower refresh rate

              9 days later

              ensete Does techarmor anti glare have to be plastic (film), or is glass ok?

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                Hi,

                the iPhone XR is the phone I can stand the best - no eyestrain, no headache.
                So I was happy to read that the iPhone 11 uses the same display . I bought one and it was a pain I can hardly use it so I gave it away to my wife.
                Some research showed that unfortunately Apple uses 3 different vendors for these devices:

                Toshiba: C11 orF7C
                LG: DTP or C3F
                Sharp: DKH

                Unfortuntely again I could not find a way to identify the display without using special hardware.

                Perhaps others experienced the same.

                regards

                /egr

                    stede "Same display" doesn't mean literally "same", they could be different for different phone models even from one supplier

                        5 days later

                        I bought iPhone 13 Pro. Unfortunately, it's not usable for me. Every day it gives me severe eye strain and blurry vision. I think it's not that bad when it comes to diziness and headache. I'm done with OLEDs. I don't know if it's PWM, but I think they are even slightly worse than IPS for me. Both are bad, but I need to choose the lesser evil.

                          ryans I didn't as it always seemed too small for me. I tried iPhone 11, XR, 7 Plus, 8 Plus, 6s (all of them are IPS) and I couldn't really use them, however iPhone 6 looked somehow better. Apple doesn't update its iOS anymore, so it may be the reason, but it also means I couldn't use many apps as newer iOS was required.

                            10 days later

                            I have a Moto e4 Plus that I suspected of giving me headaches, but I could never figure out for sure what was going on. Turns out, when you navigate into Settings, the screen dims and has PWM. Also, when the phone's display goes dim (e.g., after 1 minute or whatever your settings are), and that has PWM as well. I suspect (but never confirmed) that the display uses PWM when the battery is very low (like 10%). Those were enough to give me headaches, but it was really hard to decipher what was going on.

                            I literally spent about 8 hours reading through all the comments on this thread for the last 18 months and compiling a list of devices that seem to work well. I was looking for:

                            • At least two positive experiences on this thread
                            • No negative experiences on this thread
                            • No observed PWM at any brightness level
                            • IPS LCD screen (not OLED/AMOLED)
                            • Fairly new (released in the last year or so)

                            The Redmi Note 9T 5G Global is the only phone that met all those criteria.

                            Here are the two relevant comments that I could find:

                            Jackeyestrained After buying and selling countless phones - the ones I've personally found to be absolutely flicker free are:

                            Redmi note 9T…

                            @Jackeyestrained mentioned a few other devices, but they didn't meet my other criteria.

                            Vividblu99 Redmi Note 9t (absolutely no flickering detected, even with the screen brightness set to under 10%, however, I can only really use it with the screen brightness set low, otherwise the light from the lcd screen seems way too harsh, but doesn't cause strain in the conventional sense. It just feels too piercing at higher brightness levels.

                            I'm a bit worried about coverage in the U.S., but I've ordered a phone and once I get the IMEI I'll check compatibility on various networks. I don't care about things like the size of the phone or which carriers it works on, as long as I don't get headaches and I can find one carrier with fair coverage.

                            I'll post back when I find out what carriers support this phone, and I'll also post back when I've had a chance to use the phone for a while.

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