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  • I'm testing as many MacBooks as possible. Here are the results.

macsforme Thanks for the update. I actually just received my M1 Macbook Air 13" the other day and tried using StillColor and blue light apps, and my blue light blocking glasses and I felt the same eyestrain that I have with every other M1/M2/M3 Macbook Air/Pro. I'm not sure what they're cooking over there at Apple, but I really wish they would give us some more configuration options. I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggles with MacBook laptops (and their MacBook Mini).

FYI, I returned the Macbook Air M1 13" to the store

      whystrainwhy you're definitely not the only one. The 13" M1 is the machine I discovered this problem on. Was really looking forward to it too.

      Hopefully enough of us returning them for eye strain and headaches will get noticed by them.

          wlmsn Oh believe me I understand. July of 2023 I ordered one of the most powerful M2 MacBook Pros they offered and was super excited to use it, but then after like 30 minutes of use, I felt like my eyes were fatigued, I felt sleepy, had a headache and was really confused as to why I was having this feeling, but ever since then (actually since October 2022 with another Laptop I bought and tried), I've been trying to figure this out heh. At least we're all here trying to help each other so that's nice 🙂

            a month later

            Has anyone tried the 16 inch version (intel), any success with turning off dithering and no eye strain as well as 15 inch (intel) MAS-76 ?

              Lauda89 If you are desperate, I can use the MacBook Air 15 M2 by taking a drug called fluxarten. In my case 5mg per day is enough and I can work.

              Wow, this you are saying is so revelatory of the injurious nature of luminescent light, even go as far as taking medications to make it more tolerable... incredible, the point we are now. I suggest you get an incandescent monitor or make your own!, incandescence can be thought of as the opposite of luminescence, and regenerates instead of degenerates.

                a month later

                Donux

                I still get some discomfort from the built-in MBP 14" M2 Pro screens and I don't use them for long period of time.

                I've been doing some experimenting and I feel the most comfortable while using Dell S2722QC with Stillcolor and (a very recent finding) Gunnar Attache glasses with Amber lenses. I'm still trying to figure out why these glasses provide me so much relief. I also bought Gunnar Mateo with Amber lenses, but for some reason they aren't as effective. Maybe the thicker rims of the Attache model provide some sort of sense of perspective for my eyes. They help more than than the doctor-prescribed ones with small negative diopters (I had a laser surgery several years ago, but my vision has worsened a bit). The Gunnar glasses that I own use the Gunnar Focus lenses which have +0.2 prescription and different filters/coatings.

                I also own Apple Studio Display and Dell P2723QE, but they give me noticeably more discomfort.

                  Can someone confirm this cat "MBP 16" M1 Pro" is as good as claimed? It sounds like a good buy, big screen, M1 so will be cheaper, but still very relevant in terms of performance.

                    Donux One of my friends has a 16" M1 mini-LED, and even though I notice it is "slightly" better than the absolutely terrible 14" M1 mini-LED (the worst screen ever made IMO), I still notice I get constant double vision and text focusing issues when looking at my friend's 16" M1 laptop. Just watched him use his laptop again yesterday. Started looking blurry and hazy to me constantly after only 5 minutes. The glare is also super intense just like the 14", i.e. worse than LCD Macs.

                    IMO, do NOT buy any M1 or later Mac.

                    (except for specifically a used M2 13" Touch Bar MBP, this is the only Apple Silicon Mac that is even worth trying — but even then, you have to make sure you received one with a "000000" in the panel ID because of a panel lottery. Those ones were at least tolerable to me, but the ones without the zeroes are unusable)

                        asus389

                        Run this in Terminal to get the panel ID on a M1/M2/M3 MacBook:

                        ioreg -lw0 | grep -e "panel-serial-number" -e coverglass

                            DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs So if this is a panel issue, why so many people claim external portable screens like asus zenscreen or others do not work for them either? It would be quite easy to buy external portable monitor, plug into usb-c and rest it on the built in screen, problem would seam like fixed at 200 usd price. Or maybe this was not tested properly with new findings, i.e. disable dither and bit rate selection options?

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