What works for you, what do you use now without problems?
Great!
So you can use MacBook pro With the laptop screen or only With those monitors you mentioned?
If so I would really like to buy one as its strong enough cpu for my work. Maybe that gforce gr 650 doesnt go through the intel display output like the latest MacBook pro With dedicated gpu
Internal and external screens are A-OK. I've never had a problem with either the onboard Intel GPU or when the 650 is enabled.
Conversely I cannot use any 2nd gen 970 or 10 series GPUs, AMD Vega cards, various Wintel laptops or modern monitors that I've tried.
AgentX20
Cool. Thanks, this is very promising for me and others.I guess we all need to buy this.
Btw. Can you use bootcamp with win 10 fine with this?
Plsnostrain Can you use bootcamp with win 10 fine with this?
No idea as I've never tried it sorry.
No problem, mac os is more than good enough for me. Thanks!
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martin Hello man, I use such a laptop as you:
Acer time-line 5820tg
I use monitor Samsung SyncMaster 243lnx
These devices are very old so it's difficult to find them in saleing((( Also these displays have low screen resolution(( But both of them are perfectly suitable for my eyes, I can work with them all day long without any strain.
I noticed, that these screens have CCFL light(not LED) so I will TRY to use another CCFL displays in future, now I wanna try Dell2410
My smartphones, that I can use without eyes strain:
Samsung galaxy A3 2017
Honor 9
Other guys wrote that they can use MacBook, but for me they are awful, I have strange hurt in my eyes with macboks 2016-2018
Desktop PC:
6700K on an ASUS Z170A motherboard, running Intel 530 dedicated graphics
Ditherig 1.9
Connected via DP 1.2 to a Dell S2716DG (1440P, 144hz, TN monitor)
Feels weird using Instagram, Facebook, etc. on the PC but, gotta do what you gotta do.
poliakov
If have temporal dithering problem. I will tell you what you do. BTW, there are many topics in this website but i appreciate if anyone can make a new topic so everyone can list his set up that works for him without any discussion.
As for what works for the dithering. My advice buy any laptop that has intel hd 530 or intel hd 620 (this what I have) or other listed intel graphis on the Japanese guy website. One you got the laptop, you must install the dithering tool and ensue all dithering disabled, check also the tools run on startup. How to check the dithering tool is doing the job? Simply downlod a color gradient photo from google and check that banding lines are there. You can enable dithering and disable to see the effect.
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I have an Acer 2012 laptop that I've owned since new, albeit for my parents use. (Aspire v3-771, 17", i5 3210M, HD4000)
I have installed W10 on it and alongside ditherig app, is 100% comfortable to use, as good as a 200x setup.
One thing to note is it's running the original BIOS and hasn't been updated since it was bought.
I am now ruling W10 out as a cause and pointing solely to driver/vbios/GPU as the culprit.
The fact is that W10 is only going to install drivers >2015 and as we can't slipstream W7 drivers into it, we could all be blaming Windows but it's the new drivers that are causing problems, not the OS.
I have bought quite a few different types of monitors lately. Asus VG245H is the one I settled with. It's my favourite so far and have been gaming on it alot with no issues. I believe it's the trace free option and the fact that it's a TN panel. MPRT and flicker are my two biggest problems. I have ruled out Windows 10. I have trouble with VA and IPS. I need maximum speed and the least amount of motion blur possible. I'm running Windows 10 with an R7 Radeon with HDMI. I tried a BENQ 2411P and it wasn't bad but not as good as this ASUS. LED is really bottle necked though because it's so slow compared to plasma and CRT. I hooked up my Super NT to the monitor which is basically a super Nintendo with HDMI and it's ok but is nothing compared to my plasma TVs when you make Mario run fast you can start to see it blur up. Not as bad as the BENQ though. If I use a IPS monitor immediate pain. If I use a VA panel immediate pain. Unless I use a Samsung VA but turn on strobing then the pain goes away. Still I find this TN panel way more comfortable. VA has strange issues where there is alot more motion blur for the first 30 minutes till the panel warms up. Looks like we won't see a good CRT 60 Hertz perfect quality until OLED figures out some tricks. OLED still suffers from motion blur but I believe ultimately when these monitors come out I will have no issues. LG TVS will be including strobing and they can run at 120 Hertz when hooked up to a PC which is cool.
poliakov
I have only one graphics card which is intel. Anyway, the dithering app works only with intel graphics cards. In his website he mentioned that the app tested with Intel HD Graphics 515, Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200 and Intel HD Graphics 4000. We know also it works with Intel HD 620 and 530 as well. BTW, I would appreciate if someone has All-in-one computer to try it and post his result.
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Is this further evidence that maybe TN panels are friendlier to people such as are around here?
Maybe, it is definately easier to look at.
I have two IPS monitors, an XB271HU and a GW2765HT. Both are far more beautiful and vibrant, but they're also just collecting dust in the corner of the room. I haven't used either since the discovery of running off the intel 530 with ditherig however, so bear that in mind. The Dell is also a faster panel, so it could be the reduced blur during movement/scrolling that is helping keep things at ease.
Computer monitor: Dell P2214H, but it only doesn't cause pain with the correct ICC profile loaded. Thats indicates it is a color reproduction issue at least for me.
Phone: Moto G4 Plus with Skinomi screen protector. Currently dying looking for a useable repleacement
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So far I've only experienced eye strain from computers. My phone is a galaxy s8 plus and my primary TV is a 2017 samsung series 8. The only time they bother me is if I already have eye strain from using a "bad" computer.
I've been struggling with eye strain for the past 2 and a half years. Since then I've bought and built multiple desktops and laptops trying to figure out what works and what doesn't.
3 things I've noticed while testing different computers
- 4th gen intel chips don't trigger my eyestrain.
- Connecting my work laptop with a 6th gen i7 and nvidia quadro cpu through USB-C causes eye strain but when using VGA, it's a lot more bearable.
- Games trigger eye strain and migraines faster than web browsing and coding
No eye strain
- Surface pro 3 with a 4th gen i5 cpu running win 10
- mac mini 2014 with 4th gen intel i5 (don't remember which version of osx)
- older dell inspiron with a 4th gen i7 and radeon hd 6850 running windows 7
- AMD phenom II with radeon hd 7850 running windows 7
Eye strain
- ryzen 5 1600 with gtx 1060 running windows 10 pro
- ryzen 5 1600 with radeon rx 550 running windows 10, linux mint, ubuntu
- ryzen 7 with 1060 running windows 10 pro
- 7th gen i7 with intel graphics 630 running windows 10 home
- ryzen 7 with radeon hd 7850 running windows 10
- dell laptop 6th gen i7 with nvidia quadro 510 running windows 10
- dell g7 with 7th gen i7 and gtx 1060 running windows 10
- surface pro 6 8th gen running windows 10
Is your galaxy s8 not bothering you with standard software?
Harrison yeah, I've had it for about a year and a half with no issues. So far only newer computers cause eye strain for me.