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What is the safest windows 11 version ? How good is it ?

    I was on Windows 11 23H2 for 2 months. After that I couldn't read small print any more.

    I went back to Windows 10 21H2 (22H2 might be okay too) and slowly my eyes have been getting better again.

      Reinhard62 I have a mini PC that only supports+ win 11. It would be helpful to find a good windows-11.

        autobot Maybe it SAYS that it only supports Win 11 - but why should that be?

        Have you at least tried to install Win 10?

          autobot Sorry to insist on this. But if you install the necessary drivers windows 10 will work as well as 11. And your eye problems will be gone.

            Reinhard62 i know. But windows 10 doesnt work well on that machine. Ive tried.

            It doesnt work probably because the manufacturer havent released drivers for 10.

            Then at least go back to Win 11 21H2. That should be okay according to here: Link.

            See post from February 15th.

            In my experience every win 11 version is bad for eyesight and for migraine.

            The best for me is Win 10 1809.
            Now I'm testing Win 10 20h2 and seems good.

            I'll try 21h2 as Reinhard62 says here.

            We have an OS topic in my Group Led Eye Strain
            [https://t.me/ledeyestrain](https://)

            Yesterday I recovered my image of Win11 23H2 to try ColorControl.

            Regrettably it didn't seem to have any effect.

            Returning to Win10 21H2 was such a relief! The writing and everything stands completely still, like chiseled in stone.

              jordan Notebook (Lenovo T16 Gen1) with AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 6850U, graphics Radeon 600M, latest AMD driver. Display is PWM free, so only dithering was an issue.

              Reinhard62 Ok, but could be risky leave the updates in the ltsc 2021? There might be some risky update for the eyes

                Aquila Yes, I left updates activated. But you are right, you never know.

                But should something change for the worse, I have images of C:

                Btw This is an enterprise edition which means that it is a no nonsense business version. It comes without any "apps", not even Windows Store is included. So hopefully such gimmicks like dithering won't be implemented here.

                  Reinhard62 Yes correctly. I suggest to install it, block the updates and trying the build without risks, then in the future you could invest your time finding some good updates.

                  Reinhard62 Win 10 22H2 was also okay

                  with 8th gen intel UHD graphics, 22H2 (both 10 and 11, I tested both) has noticeably more issues for me compared to previous versions

                  the only device I've managed to get usable on 22H2 is the Surface Pro 4 (6th gen, HD 520)

                  autobot Get the newest windows 11 and take all the comments about OS versions with a grain of salt. There is something else going on, but people blame external factor for it. I assume because of external locus of control. We need that survey to find out more factors about sufferers, including their occupation. And of course, take a walk in the wild forest regularly.

                    Donux there is 100% a difference with OS versions on some computers, for example Ubuntu 18.04 on 2009 Macbook Pro 13" is great, but macOS Monterey makes the screen feel noticeably more weird, there are even differences in the output showing the same exact photo or screenshot (even when the color profile is disabled) that I can actually see when I take a picture close up with a camera, where pixels at edges of objects within images appear brighter and more exaggerated in a macro shot while running macOS, especially red subpixels

                    The panel has both PWM and pixel inversion, and the speed of the PWM I see on camera doesn't change between the OSes so it's not that for me. NVIDIA temporal dithering can also be fully disabled on both OSes so it's not that either. Both OSes are fully using the NVIDIA GPU (acceleration is NOT disabled) and even other functions like wireless are fully enabled on both — and yet the screen output is still so much better on Ubuntu…

                    Interestingly, on macOS the screen output changes (to become even worse and more unstable) when a power adapter is connected, but that doesn't happen at ALL while running Ubuntu on the same computer — so it's definitely something macOS is choosing to do itself and not the hardware.

                    So it is directly related to a problem with macOS's color output itself, which means the OS installed (which extends to the version of the OS too) does matter

                    BTW noticed a similar issue on a newer ThinkPad (T460s) I tried but in reverse: brighter reddish edges were much more noticeable in a macro photo of Ubuntu on the T460s (and the screen felt worse)… but the same artifacts were less visible on camera when displaying an exact copy of that screenshot but on Windows 10 instead

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