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Reinhard62 Win 10 22H2 was also okay

with 8th gen intel UHD graphics, 22H2 (both 10 and 11, I tested both) has noticeably more issues for me compared to previous versions

the only device I've managed to get usable on 22H2 is the Surface Pro 4 (6th gen, HD 520)

autobot Get the newest windows 11 and take all the comments about OS versions with a grain of salt. There is something else going on, but people blame external factor for it. I assume because of external locus of control. We need that survey to find out more factors about sufferers, including their occupation. And of course, take a walk in the wild forest regularly.

    Donux there is 100% a difference with OS versions on some computers, for example Ubuntu 18.04 on 2009 Macbook Pro 13" is great, but macOS Monterey makes the screen feel noticeably more weird, there are even differences in the output showing the same exact photo or screenshot (even when the color profile is disabled) that I can actually see when I take a picture close up with a camera, where pixels at edges of objects within images appear brighter and more exaggerated in a macro shot while running macOS, especially red subpixels

    The panel has both PWM and pixel inversion, and the speed of the PWM I see on camera doesn't change between the OSes so it's not that for me. NVIDIA temporal dithering can also be fully disabled on both OSes so it's not that either. Both OSes are fully using the NVIDIA GPU (acceleration is NOT disabled) and even other functions like wireless are fully enabled on both — and yet the screen output is still so much better on Ubuntu…

    Interestingly, on macOS the screen output changes (to become even worse and more unstable) when a power adapter is connected, but that doesn't happen at ALL while running Ubuntu on the same computer — so it's definitely something macOS is choosing to do itself and not the hardware.

    So it is directly related to a problem with macOS's color output itself, which means the OS installed (which extends to the version of the OS too) does matter

    BTW noticed a similar issue on a newer ThinkPad (T460s) I tried but in reverse: brighter reddish edges were much more noticeable in a macro photo of Ubuntu on the T460s (and the screen felt worse)… but the same artifacts were less visible on camera when displaying an exact copy of that screenshot but on Windows 10 instead

      Donux I mean @simplex has recorded a video between win10 1809 vs a newer win10 build and it was easily noticeable how the newer build has pixel flicker that you can see visibly, the pixels were dancing around but weren't on 1809.

        Which? I use 19042 (20H2) because with the driver version I am using the screen is good.

        I've been able to see with other OSes there are more issues, so drivers are part of the problem. On my other machine connected to a different input I was able to work on it a bit by changing the modeline timings (still standards compliant, but not the original one it shipped with) and working on the font rendering.

        PS. One warning I would give to those using older OSes.. you really do need to know what security holes exist. One recent one that is a severe remote exploit works through IPv6 so I had to turn that off (also remote desktop, SMBv1, etc.) For someone who isn't a tech geek like me it would be better for them to try and find a modern solution that works if it is net connected. Whether that is Linux or something else.

          Sunspark 21h1 win10 I believe was the one with the pixels dancing around

          jordan I did not see it. Did both versions use exactly the same display driver ?

          Reinhard62 How long have you been using this? I know security updates happen until 2032, but don't you need to have an activated version in order to receive them? I thought when you install this version without the license key, it basically serves as a "trial" for a certain amount of time before you have no choice but to activate in order to get the security updates. Has that been the case for you?

            whystrainwhy You can activate it using the massgrave command.

            That said, I didn't care for 22H2 when I took a look at it. I am interested in taking a look at server because it's a separate codebase, but I will probably never bother.

            whystrainwhy I have been using Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 (21H2) for a year now. Of course, I have activated it. See what Sunspark wrote.

            DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs I saw Ubuntu next version will fully approve Wayland for nvidia as standard. So that probably means Wayland is not good yet for intel. This should be a step forward, but not yet for intel. As for windows, to me it comes down it OS itself. I have weird symptoms with it, feeling not grounded, and sometimes feeling fatigue and drained. Maybe its psychological, I do not know. With Ubuntu X11 - totally grounded, but there is a bit of tension. I do not know if this is eye strain, or something else. Although, I used to feel the same with it even 10-15 years ago, so I guess it is all good. Next week I will probably sell my macbook air m2 which is now used with NoMachine which is really good on linux, but windows rendering is still better. And my solution would be - stationary Mac Mini 2018 i7 with probably maxed out the rest. This will really make me fully on intel HD 620/630 GPUs, one on lenovo another on mac mini. I will be connecting it for remote access too, so if let say I am working away, I will be logging into it remotely. And my client will be good old lenovo X1. I have a feeling this will work as best as it could possibly be.

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