lennylevino Crucial BallistiX

Could you please send screenshots of Memory and SPD tabs in CPU-Z…? I found in my "safe" workstations, RAM volume and freq matters

lennylevino Is he using the built-in GPU

Yep. He use integrated grapfics, and noticed strain after 5700g purchasing. He bought 2 pcs and they both strain his PC: vega7 is OK, vega8 is strainfull

    simplex

    From HWInfo:

    Module Part Number: BLS16G4D26BFSC.16FD
    Memory Speed: 1333.3 MHz (DDR4-2666 / PC4-21300)

    Yep. He use integrated grapfics, and noticed strain after 5700g purchasing. He bought 2 pcs and they both strain his PC: vega7 is OK, vega8 is strainfull

    Ok, maybe try installing an Intel Arc GPU and remove the old AMD graphics drivers.

      lennylevino Memory Speed: 1333.3 MHz (DDR4-2666 / PC4-21300)

      that is good finding! my is 3200mhz and 1.35V, that could be issue coz in 2133mhz and 1.2V mode it seems much-much better. Your memory work in default DDR4 voltage = 1.2V

      a month later

      Hey everyone, it seems like the B580 is sold out everywhere however, I did find the following one at a store nearby that I could purchase and try for 30 days. It's called:

      "Sparkle Intel Arc B580 Titan Overclocked Dual Fan 12B GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card

      https://www.microcenter.com/product/688703/sparkle-intel-arc-b580-titan-overclocked-dual-fan-12b-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card#tab-reviews-bm

      Do you all think this one could be just as effective as any of the others or should I wait for the Limited Edition one? I'm hoping to try Windows 11 with this one to see if it feels better than the A750 Limited Edition.

        10 days later

        lennylevino I haven't found a comfortable setup using it with any monitor or operating system, unfortunately. Also, my specific card doesn't seem to handle connecting to 4K monitors and just flickers on and off, even with the drivers updated.

        The B580 was more consistent. I tried that one as well with a number of 1080p/2K/4K monitors, along with Windows 10 21H2, 22H2, and Windows 11 and I had varying results that were better in terms of symptoms, but still was mostly unusable. At this point, I'm convinced that, at least for me, I have to keep trying random combinations of things to find that magic setup. I'm getting closer and closer after each test 🙂

          4 days later

          whystrainwhy

          I have similar problems with ARC A770 on my motherboard, which is based on the Z390 chipset. In Windows 10/11, I often see artifacts and flickering.

          An example of flickering and artifacts on the screen: https://dropmefiles.com/qIZKZ.

          But the cause of my problem might be different from yours. My motherboard's BIOS (2019) didn’t support Intel Arc, so to solve the issue, I had to update to the latest BIOS version. This completely eliminated the artifacts and flickering. But the most interesting thing is that this is the proof that the motherboard's BIOS can affect the display, even when it comes to a discrete graphics card.

          For my eyes, the most comfortable image when using Windows and ARC A770 was achieved with Windows 10 22H2 19045.5371, Intel(R) UHD Graphics driver v.32.0.101.6129.

          Although I am currently working more with Intel UHD 48EUs (i5-12450h), as it seems slightly more comfortable to me than the Intel ARC A770.

          whystrainwhy

          Sorry to hear that. Have you tried playing around with the settings in Intel Graphics Command Center?

          Here's what works for me:

          Connector: HDMI
          Quantization Range: Limited
          Color Depth: BPC_8

          I'm using a native 8-bit VA panel (no FRC).

            jordan

            I haven't had a chance to install it yet (been traveling). But hopefully will be able to next week.

            I have mine setup but still experience eyestrain/headaches but it is far less than my 1060 GTX I had previously. Of note, in looking at a dithering image, I don’t seem to see any (there are bands not a smooth gradient).

            I am using the HDMI port with a Limited RGB setting via the Intel Command Center (which appears to be the default).

            For testing purposes, I picked up a MSI 710 GT off an Amazon and trying that with Limited RGB via the Nvidia Controls. Eyestrain there to but far less than other video cards. When looking at a dithering test image, it’s smooth not banded so some dithering may be happening.

            These plug into a Dell 24 inch monitor that doesn’t have DisplayPort options.

            I just removed the ICC profile as someone else had mentioned that an ICC manipulates colors so I need to retest the Battlemage once I recover from the vestibular migraine from today’s testing of the 710 GT.

              Dizzy

              The graphics card always handles color correction, but using a proper ICC profile ensures that all the colors stay within the monitor's color range. This can be important if your monitor is 8-bit+FRC and you set 8-bit in your graphics card settings (and your graphics card does not perform dithering). Without a proper ICC profile, certain shades may fall into the range where the monitor activates the FRC module, which can cause increased eye strain. That said, this might not work the same way for all monitors, so it’s a good idea to test and see whether using an ICC profile feels more comfortable for you.

              But the biggest problem is getting a correct ICC profile for the monitor, since not everyone has monitor calibration devices and not all monitor manufacturers provide ICC profiles. However, if you have one, it's worth trying both options.

                WhisperingWind Thank you. I have a Dell SE2422HX which is a 6 bit + FRC VA panel. Given this should I use the ICC with my Battlemage?

                  Dizzy

                  My MBP M1 is less comfortable to use with the external monitor BenQ GL2450 (6bit+FRC) if I remove the ICC profile. Try testing to see what works best for your eyes, as in our case, the only way to find out for sure is through testing.

                  When it comes to the Intel ARC A770, I’ve found it a bit tricky to use with the BenQ GL2450 (6-bit+FRC), whether or not an ICC profile is applied. Unfortunately, this graphics card causes severe eye strain almost immediately when used with this monitor because it triggers the FRC module much more intensely than the MBP M1. However, if I connect it to a true 8-bit display, it provides a fairly comfortable image.

                  Thank you. I am on the hunt for a good True 8 Bit monitor to pair up with my Battlemage.

                    jordan What about 10 Bit (8bit + FRC)? Would that pair up with the Battlemage so long as it’s set to stay 8 Bit? Checking the Omen now

                      Dizzy Hmm I would think so if you leave HDR disabled and keep it at 8 bits but then again I am not 100% sure.

                      WhisperingWind The graphics card always handles color correction, but using a proper ICC profile ensures that all the colors stay within the monitor's color range. This can be important if your monitor is 8-bit+FRC and you set 8-bit in your graphics card settings (and your graphics card does not perform dithering). Without a proper ICC profile, certain shades may fall into the range where the monitor activates the FRC module, which can cause increased eye strain.

                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my understanding. A monitor has a certain physical range of colors it can display. A color profile cannot extend this range, but it can clamp (increase the minimum or reduce the maximum) the range of each channel and/or compress a logical range of color values into a smaller physical range. I believe the theory behind disabling color correction via the color profile is to simplify the pipeline to get closer to a 1:1 correlation between the GPU output value and what the panel tries to display, thereby reducing interpolation via FRC (the tradeoff being loss of color accuracy). Monitors may also have built-in calibration via RGB sliders, and possibly factory calibration accessible via the service menu, which I believe can have similar effects on FRC dithering as color profiles.

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