Nintendo Switch
deepflame It can be docked and I have no issue with it on the plasma TV. My kids have no issues with the screens. My kids mostly play PS4 so the switch doesn't get much use.
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I just joined as I came across this thread while searching the web.
I’m having similar problems with my switch, both in handheld mode and when docked on my 65” OLED.
Whenever I play my eyes feel strained within 5-10 minutes, almost like they are incredibly tired. They actually start to hurt moving them after playing for 15-30 mins.
I’m a moderate gamer, played PC games for years and play both PS4 and XBox frequenly right now without issue. I also use a laptop, iPhone and 34” monitor daily without issue.
What in the world could be causing this?
Also, just to add. I have crappy eyesight but have worn glasses for years. Corrected my vision is sharp and just had my prescription updated earlier this year. I’m also playing in a bright room.
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Jivedonkey Is that TV ok otherwise? What things do you have connected to it when its ok? The prevailing theory, untested and speculative, is that one or more types of "dithering" (where pixels are rapidly flickered to create different shades than a panl can natively make) is the cause of much of our strain. That comes from the gpus of the device being used so would explain why plugging it into the TV makes the TV painful. Efforts are in progress to test for and then hopefully find a way to turn dithering off...but its an uncertain future.
Jivedonkey I'm wondering the same. Does the OLED TV bother you otherwise? I'm strongly considering getting one but not sure if I can use it.
hpst no strain at all using other sources on the OLED, it’s very comfortable with everything (PS4, Xbox, Apple TV) except the switch.
jasonpicard nope, the OLED is perfect for me with everything except the Switch.
Jivedonkey Which model is the TV?
Hey guys, I'm curious if the majority of people here have problems with the Nintendo Switch, or if it's just a few select people, and if there are any mitigation strategies for it.
Super Smash Bros, Ultimate has released today, and that's a definite console-mover and core title that has been highly anticipated. Before I jump right in I should probably at least try a Switch at a Best Buy or something, because I haven't actually tried one yet!
I used to play Super Smash Bros. Melee for GameCube (semi-)professionally once upon a time, and unfortunately the issue that brings me here likely kiboshed chances to turn fully pro. eSports became huge after I essentially "retired" from play as well, with some people I know that I used to compete with going on to make well... millions. I try not to think too much of what could have been because it's just too depressing, haha.
Actually someone even wrote a SmashWiki article about me once, and somehow even knew I had eye comfort issues! I once signed up to edit that portion out - you know - personal health struggles and the sort, but upon another look that detail came back again, lol!
https://www.ssbwiki.com/Smasher:MagnuM
This issue has made me feel like an old man for a long time now (first presented itself December 2011). I'm thinking of buying a Nintendo Switch and the new Smash so that I can actually feel young again! I guess I first want to check if the Switch is "eye-safe", and if that applies to the mobile and docked (console) configurations, or just the console.
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I've been on most Nintendo consoles and hand-held's since the original NES, and can say whole-heartedly the Switch is the first Nintendo console to ever give me issues.
I first thought is it because it is hand-held? But I have used hand-held's for YEARS (All versions of Game Boy, Game Gear, Atari Lynx, PSP, DS Lite - etc...) for hours without any symptoms.
I got the Switch last year and was super excited - within 10-15 minutes of play, either docked or on my good Plasma TV, it wasn't eye strain but I felt really tired/dizzy/spaced out. Similar symptoms to what I experience on an iMac - which to me says there is some sort of dithering going on - IMO.
At the moment it seems all console gaming for me is a dead-end - if Nvidia dithering/PC eye issues are resolved i'll probably join the PC master race 
- There may be a Nintendo Switch emulator in a few years. I'm a big retro gaming fan and emulators are definately worth checking out - Check out Dolphin for gamecube/wii as an example.*
*To play backups of your own games 
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Weird, I can use Nintendo switch without any problem. I also bought Xbox one x and that is no problem. But using my Macbook 2018 pro gives severe strain. Also my brothers Ryzen laptop (Acer Ryzen 2500u) gives strain after 15 minutes. My Samsung s6 is also strain free. And so is my iPhone 4s.All new laptops i tried gives me strain. Only my old amd laptop with radeonhd 4200 is strain free. I can Even use the latest Windows 10 on that without strain.
diop OT but a good guide on how to dump various disc based games from various consoles.
Reproduced here:
Ok, I'm gonna go a bit into detail here...
Unfortunately you'll need a bunch of drives to cover all those consoles properly, that is if you really only want to use your PC and not the modded consoles to extract the discs (which in many cases saves you quite a lot of time/headache).
PS2 is the easiest of the bunch. As you already found out, these are plain DVDs; any DVD drive will read these discs just fine.
As for Gamecube and Wii discs, you're correct, you need the LG GDR-8161B, GDR-8162B, GDR-8163B or GDR-8164B and a program named FriiDump. Extracting the GC/Wii discs is pretty slow with these drives (you can expect about an hour per GC disc, several hours especially for dual layer Wii discs), so a modded Wii with CleanRip is a more convenient solution.
Xbox and Xbox 360 are quite similar to GC/Wii in that you need a "special" drive, namely a Kreon compatible drive. Kreon is an alternative firmware that allows these select few drives to see the game data on the disc. You can dump the discs with Xbox Backup Creator pretty easily then. If you insert an Xbox or Xbox 360 game disc into a non-Kreon DVD drive, you'll only get a DVD-V partition containing a video telling you that this disc is meant for playback in an Xbox or Xbox 360 console. An example for such a Kreon compatible drive is the Samsung SH-D162C; I can't really remember any other drives, so you'd have to google that.
PS3 and PS4 can be read with most if not all standard Bluray drives.
Xbox One discs seem to be readable by certain drives as well, but I have not looked into that topic at all, so I can't give you any reliable information here.
Wii U discs are impossible to dump on a PC so far.
With CD-based consoles, it really depends whether the disc contains audio tracks. If it doesn't, you can use any CD or DVD drive to dump the disc (for example, 3DO discs don't contain audio tracks, PSX discs sometimes do). If the disc DOES contain audio tracks (as is the case with Saturn discs, Sega CD discs, PCE-CD discs, ...), you'll have to decide... if you don't care about slight (that is, completely unnoticable) inaccuracies, you can use pretty much any CD or DVD drive for dumping them. However, if you're like me and you'd prefer to have super accurate dumps which you can verify against databases such as redump etc, you're gonna need a drive that supports overreading into leadin/-out. I highly recommend a Plextor drive such as the PX760A -- these are excellent drives with great error correction.
As for GD-ROMs (the discs used in the Sega Dreamcast), I highly recommend not dumping them via PC. These discs consist of several "areas"; the one that contains the game data is written in higher density, so it's not accessible on a standard drive. Technically, it's possible to use certain drives -- such as the aforementioned Samsung SH-D162C -- and trick them into reading the discs. The process to do so is really really complicated and involves taking your drive apart. If you're interested in the gruesome details, see http://forum.redump.org/topic/2620/dreamcastnaomi-gdrom-dumping-instructions/
TL;DR: If you really want to do everything via PC, I suggest:
-> LG GDR-8164B (or (8161-8163, whichever you can get) for GC/Wii
-> Samsung SH-D162C for Xbox/Xbox 360 and DC (if you're brave enough...)
-> Plextor PX-760A for CD-based media, i.e. Saturn, PSX, Sega CD etc.
-> any Bluray drive for PS3/PS4
PS2 would be possible on ANY of these drives. CD-based media too, so if you don't need super accurate dumps, you don't need the Plextor.
Plsnostrain your problem might be blue light and not dithering. I also don't think I am sensitive to dithering. But blue light on the other hand. Just crazy...
No, i dont think its blue light. That only interferes with my sleep pattern, it has nothing to do with strain. I think its something with the rendering technique ,im not sure its temporal dithering(it could be). I could use the Playstation 4 fine before they updated it last year, so its definetively something they do driver wise. And the iphone 8 plus is also unusable.
Plsnostrain If you reduce the contrast to the minimum possible, when using your PS4 does it have any influence?
No, it didnt do anything whatever settings i tried after the update. I have now sold it.