Here are the details.

Sadly, I've been unable to find out how to get at the low level details to confirm the panel manufacturer. I know I've done it in the past, but I just can't find the right syntax/commands.

The only downside to this laptop is the screen anti glare covering has started to erode following screen cleaning but that's a small price to pay for comfort - and is largely invisible during everyday use.

    AgentX20

    ioreg -lw0 | grep "EDID" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r

        Sunspark I've tried that command before it just returns Color LCD with my 2015 MBP running 10.11.6

            Sunspark Thanks, I get the string "LP154WT1-SJA2", which I believe denotes an LG panel.

              Guys, are you now implying that a specific app on a phone or a browser on a computer can cause eyestrain!?!?
              I thought the problem resided solely on OS updates. I ask because after factory-reseting my Android phone last May and never re-updating the app which I thought takes care of the graphics I have been experiencing again terrible eyestrain. Actually pain behind my eyes and in my neck. Crazy how seconds can trigger neck discomfort...
              The only thing I did has been adding apps and updating apps except Chrome and Android WebView.
              Like hpst, I start feeling desperate. Every day there is something new and worse, and I never come to a conclusion :-(

              • Gurm replied to this.

                I cannot comment on Android, but I am convinced that certain applications on Windows 10 can cause me problems (significant discomfort) ie Firefox, the newest Chrome and also Lockheed Martin's V4 of Prepar3d (flight simulator). Why them and nothing else I have no idea at all...

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                  AgentX20 100%. Chrome after v68 did something... bad. Firefox after a certain version (57? 54? Someone fill me in here) did too.

                  • JTL replied to this.

                      AGI That, unfortunately, is EXACTLY what we're saying. Google has changed the font on all their apps, irrespective of the version (I can't guarantee that launch versions would be similarly affected, but my apps were all updated in early September and the font change kicked in THIS WEEK).

                      • AGI replied to this.

                          Gurm Geeez, to me nightmare n.2 after the factory-reset of May started exactly in early September...
                          However, there seems to be something in the light which bothers me and did not before...that is my main point...it hurts even if I watch a football game, even if I just stare at the screen without reading...maybe Galaxy On5 is a cheap phone and the display got screwed? Aging?

                          I keep looking into e-ink options but not much is happening. Yotaphone 3 and soon HiSense A6 but they are not available where I live, and I would like a phone, not a portable movie theater screen :-(

                          https://goodereader.com/blog/smartphones-2/hisense-a6-is-a-new-smartphone-with-an-e-ink-screen

                            JTL I read something somewhere that Apple did this on purpose, though no evidence was offered to prove this. Supposedly people were running the command and returning their laptops because they had an LG panel like AgentX20's, and they were looking for a Samsung panel instead. This part I do believe.

                            • JTL replied to this.

                                Sunspark Yes. My uncle has a 2012 15" Macbook Pro with the LG (iirc) and the first iteration of the LG Retina panels had awful smearing and temporary "burn in"

                                  @Gurm any chance to get those details from the "magic laptop" you saw? I bought myself a late 2013 version which was very good at first (I think) and seems to have gotten worse after an EFI upgrade. So it would be cool if you could get the data somehow to compare 🙂

                                  (the upgrade was made when I updated from 10.13.4 to 10.13.6 and it seems I cannot downgrade the firmware...)

                                  • JTL replied to this.

                                    deepflame It might be possible to downgrade the firmware, with a slight risk of breaking it unless soldering to reflash the chip in hardware.

                                    I'll try and find more details if you're interested.

                                        JTL I'll try and find more details if you're interested.

                                        That would be great of course. I already tried extracting the .scap file from the OSX update and following the guide here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/did-yosemite-update-boot-firmware.1818849/#post-20908661 (without removing the other snap file. Maybe I should have because it did not really work.).

                                        Did not plan to end up like this guy:

                                        https://youtu.be/oScvBTR_L4Q?t=987

                                        as I do not have an external EEPROM programmer at hand...

                                        • JTL replied to this.

                                            deepflame I szaw someone on MacRumors did a guide on updating the EFI firmware to support NVMe SSDs on older MacBook Pro models. I'll try and find it.

                                            Getting an EEPROM programmer would be a good idea.

                                              2 months later

                                              Gurm have 3 kids to support, and am beginning to feel like we're very close to a place where I won't be able to work AT ALL, which is terrifying to me.

                                              I'm feeling this way recently too. I don't know how much longer we can cling to these old devices. Like many people on here, I also make a living in IT. Guess I'll have to work in a gas station or something.

                                                  ryans Bars, gas stations, manual labor, oil rig work, construction, locksmithing, plumbing... I have a list for worst case🙂 There are also good paying jobs that dont require long exposure to screens, but you need training for them of course. I would miss movies an reading on a laptop, but I wouldnt miss computer based work. Also if this issue doesnt get solved and Ill have to change work, I will make sure Ill medialize it as much as possible.

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