My name is Mihail and I am the Chief Operating Officer of Iristech

I recently found out about this website from a user. I see that it's an awesome community and there is a really high interest in protecting the eyes

Our software can help here, it will remove the blue light from your monitor up to 0K (you can regulate how much it removes) and the PWM Flicker as well so you can feel less eye strain and sleep better 🙂

You can download and test Iris from our website here:
https://iristech.co/?ap_id=pernichev_quora

If you are interested, I and the CEO of Iris can do an AMA here where you can ask us questions and propose ideas on how to make the software better and what to add, it would be helpful for both sides

    Something that'd be great would be to disable temporal dithering (especially Intel's) for all Windows, Linux, and Mac.

      I'd love to hear how ... software ... can remove PWM and blue light.

        Gurm I've heard of Intel PWM Control software before where the PWM is raised very high. I think some people are affected even when PWM is high, but less so, so that is one possible software change.

          Pernichev Welcome! Nice talking to people who develop solutions.

          Could you briefly explain what differentiate your product from f.lux which I am currently using?

          Also, there is a lot of talking about temporal dithering. I cannot find the discussion now, but I recall reading that f.lux could potentially exacerbate eyestrain from dithering. Is there any effect of Iris on dithering? Thanks.

              Guys this product in it's current form is not going to solve our eyestrain. Blue light is not causing eye strain. It's possibly messing up circadian rhythm based on some studies and common sense. This application is likely just changing tint like F.lux and Redshift, and messing with brightness to stop PWM. Most likely by running the true backlight at 100% so no PWM is present and then using overlays/gamma games or some other thing to software dim. I have seen other people talk about doing this with other products but cannot remember their names. The general public is just now becoming aware of the "blue light" scare so we can expect to hear more and more about it. It can definitely affect your sleep cycle with late exposure, but its not causing eyestrain or else sunlight would be making people have strain all day long, and is without a doubt a red herring for overuse, dithering or whatever else is at the root for that person.

              @AGI F.lux/Redshift mess with gamma settings and some people have said doing so HELPS and some HURTS so no idea what that is about. Maybe IF dithering is an issue those changes trigger/block it in certain instances. Personally it doesn't effect me either way and a bad device is still bad. This product likely fiddles with gamma as well because anything affecting color or color profiling will, but they can speak to that.

                Pernichev I've never used Iris, but I think the product itself is good (an improved software based blue-light filter, with it's own trade offs), but I'm not a fan of your licensing scheme. $15 isn't bad but I have multiple computers across several operating systems that I use on a daily basis.

                    AGI Also, there is a lot of talking about temporal dithering. I cannot find the discussion now, but I recall reading that f.lux could potentially exacerbate eyestrain from dithering. Is there any effect of Iris on dithering? Thanks.

                    I'd assume so because it's altering the displayed colors, and the colors that f.lux/Iris use are outside of the standard color gamuts.

                      ryans We are trying to solve this right now, we got the suggestion from a member of this website

                        Gurm What you have to do to remove flicker with Iris is to basically turn your monitor (hardware) brightness to 100%. Then you can control your brightness level from Iris (with software). It controls the brightness a little bit differently and that's why it's possible to eliminate the flicker

                        You can find more on this here:
                        https://iristech.co/how-iris-reduces-pwm-flicker-medium/?ap_id=pernichev_quora

                        Edit:
                        We also have the coolest customer support ever (I am in charge of this). If you have any issues we'll help and record you a video on how to solve the issue if needed

                          Pernichev

                          Hello and welcome,

                          My 2 cents: I am not sure blue light filtering is the best direction to go in, as flux already does this for free, and PWM free monitors are now common place - though a laptop solution would be welcomed. If you want to get my money, software that stops temporal dithering for AMD or Nvidia graphics cards, or android phones would do it.

                          Are you familiar with Suguru Kawamoto's work? he created software that prevents modern intel integrated GPUs from dithering, something I rely on to use computers comfortably. However I understand that without recognition that such things are problem, marketing this software would be difficult.

                          https://kawamoto.no-ip.org/henteko/myapp_en.html

                              Seagull I'm doing some of my own research at the moment related to this. Don't have anything to share yet and I'm busy with university as well.

                                AGI I personally find Iris more advanced, for example, it can auto change your blue light value based on time of day/night in where you live in by using approximation (basically taking the city/country you live in), while flux is only locked to the position of the sun and uses geolocation which takes your exact coordinates and feels like a privacy issue for me.
                                It has locked blue light values, with Iris you have full control 0K-6500K and you can choose
                                Iris has Types, which are like presets made from us. We have Health (general usage), Sleep, Programming, etc. You can also invert the screen and have dark mode on whatever you want 😃

                                We actually have an article on this, you can check it here:
                                https://iristech.co/best-alternative-to-f-lux/?ap_id=pernichev_quora

                                    hpst I mentioned it at a previous reply but right now we are trying to solve the temporal dithering. I wouldn't say that our company is about following the money and ripping off clients, as a matter of fact, we try to help every client and make them happy.
                                    We've made changes and added custom features due to client requests, for example here we have a lot of features that exist solely because a user wanted them:
                                    https://iristech.co/iris-hidden-features/?ap_id=pernichev_quora

                                    If you want to help us or have ideas on the temporal dithering or anything else that can make life at the computer easier, you can write to us here:
                                    contact@iristech.co

                                        Pernichev If you could do a lifetime multi PC subscription (I think $50 is reasonable given how there is a trial and all) I think that would be a better product.

                                        Hmm.

                                            Seagull Yes, we are aware of his work, thanks

                                            Iris is trying to solve the headaches from computers for the masses that are not aware of what flickering is and what blue light does to them and help them

                                              Pernichev I mentioned it at a previous reply but right now we are trying to solve the temporal dithering. I

                                              Well that is certainly good news. Is your dithering solution going to be available for Linux? What is the basic theory you are chasing to toggle dithering? As I have been told it would require drivers for each vender to be altered. Do you have a time frame?

                                              My comments were born of cynicsm and lots of negative experiences combined with misery from this problem. My apologies if it felt personal. That said many of us are desperate enough to be held ransom and pay whatever one might charge, but if there is a solution forthcoming I'd prefer to see it be open sourced and not a proprietary product. I have no problem donating, paying, or putting up bounties...but I do not like closed software that makes me dependent on you forever since companies come and go and this matter is too important of an accessibility issue to hinge on one "secret sauce" that may or may not be there long term for us if nobody can fork it, continue development etc. Personally the dithering solution is the only bit I am interested in and I wouldn't use the other existing features.

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