Something that'd be great would be to disable temporal dithering (especially Intel's) for all Windows, Linux, and Mac.
I am the COO of Iris. A blue light filter that helps you have a better life
I'd love to hear how ... software ... can remove PWM and blue light.
Anyone tried this?
Pernichev Welcome! Nice talking to people who develop solutions.
Could you briefly explain what differentiate your product from f.lux which I am currently using?
Also, there is a lot of talking about temporal dithering. I cannot find the discussion now, but I recall reading that f.lux could potentially exacerbate eyestrain from dithering. Is there any effect of Iris on dithering? Thanks.
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Guys this product in it's current form is not going to solve our eyestrain. Blue light is not causing eye strain. It's possibly messing up circadian rhythm based on some studies and common sense. This application is likely just changing tint like F.lux and Redshift, and messing with brightness to stop PWM. Most likely by running the true backlight at 100% so no PWM is present and then using overlays/gamma games or some other thing to software dim. I have seen other people talk about doing this with other products but cannot remember their names. The general public is just now becoming aware of the "blue light" scare so we can expect to hear more and more about it. It can definitely affect your sleep cycle with late exposure, but its not causing eyestrain or else sunlight would be making people have strain all day long, and is without a doubt a red herring for overuse, dithering or whatever else is at the root for that person.
@AGI F.lux/Redshift mess with gamma settings and some people have said doing so HELPS and some HURTS so no idea what that is about. Maybe IF dithering is an issue those changes trigger/block it in certain instances. Personally it doesn't effect me either way and a bad device is still bad. This product likely fiddles with gamma as well because anything affecting color or color profiling will, but they can speak to that.
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Pernichev I've never used Iris, but I think the product itself is good (an improved software based blue-light filter, with it's own trade offs), but I'm not a fan of your licensing scheme. $15 isn't bad but I have multiple computers across several operating systems that I use on a daily basis.
AGI Also, there is a lot of talking about temporal dithering. I cannot find the discussion now, but I recall reading that f.lux could potentially exacerbate eyestrain from dithering. Is there any effect of Iris on dithering? Thanks.
I'd assume so because it's altering the displayed colors, and the colors that f.lux/Iris use are outside of the standard color gamuts.
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Gurm What you have to do to remove flicker with Iris is to basically turn your monitor (hardware) brightness to 100%. Then you can control your brightness level from Iris (with software). It controls the brightness a little bit differently and that's why it's possible to eliminate the flicker
You can find more on this here:
https://iristech.co/how-iris-reduces-pwm-flicker-medium/?ap_id=pernichev_quora
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We also have the coolest customer support ever (I am in charge of this). If you have any issues we'll help and record you a video on how to solve the issue if needed
Hello and welcome,
My 2 cents: I am not sure blue light filtering is the best direction to go in, as flux already does this for free, and PWM free monitors are now common place - though a laptop solution would be welcomed. If you want to get my money, software that stops temporal dithering for AMD or Nvidia graphics cards, or android phones would do it.
Are you familiar with Suguru Kawamoto's work? he created software that prevents modern intel integrated GPUs from dithering, something I rely on to use computers comfortably. However I understand that without recognition that such things are problem, marketing this software would be difficult.
AGI I personally find Iris more advanced, for example, it can auto change your blue light value based on time of day/night in where you live in by using approximation (basically taking the city/country you live in), while flux is only locked to the position of the sun and uses geolocation which takes your exact coordinates and feels like a privacy issue for me.
It has locked blue light values, with Iris you have full control 0K-6500K and you can choose
Iris has Types, which are like presets made from us. We have Health (general usage), Sleep, Programming, etc. You can also invert the screen and have dark mode on whatever you want 
We actually have an article on this, you can check it here:
https://iristech.co/best-alternative-to-f-lux/?ap_id=pernichev_quora
hpst I mentioned it at a previous reply but right now we are trying to solve the temporal dithering. I wouldn't say that our company is about following the money and ripping off clients, as a matter of fact, we try to help every client and make them happy.
We've made changes and added custom features due to client requests, for example here we have a lot of features that exist solely because a user wanted them:
https://iristech.co/iris-hidden-features/?ap_id=pernichev_quora
If you want to help us or have ideas on the temporal dithering or anything else that can make life at the computer easier, you can write to us here:
contact@iristech.co
JTL We have a monthly subscription that allows you to use Iris on up to 5 computers and also gives you the latest versions and updates. Iris is also supported on pretty much all platforms you can think of
With this link, you will also get a 10% OFF of the monthly payments:
https://iristech.co/buy-subscription/?ap_id=pernichev_quora
JTL can you message me over at contact@iristech.co so we can talk?
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Pernichev I mentioned it at a previous reply but right now we are trying to solve the temporal dithering. I
Well that is certainly good news. Is your dithering solution going to be available for Linux? What is the basic theory you are chasing to toggle dithering? As I have been told it would require drivers for each vender to be altered. Do you have a time frame?
My comments were born of cynicsm and lots of negative experiences combined with misery from this problem. My apologies if it felt personal. That said many of us are desperate enough to be held ransom and pay whatever one might charge, but if there is a solution forthcoming I'd prefer to see it be open sourced and not a proprietary product. I have no problem donating, paying, or putting up bounties...but I do not like closed software that makes me dependent on you forever since companies come and go and this matter is too important of an accessibility issue to hinge on one "secret sauce" that may or may not be there long term for us if nobody can fork it, continue development etc. Personally the dithering solution is the only bit I am interested in and I wouldn't use the other existing features.
Pernichev Thanks on reply and link.
I found out about dithering on this website. From the little I understand it is not universally acknowledged to be a problem, as flickering or blue light. The big guys in the electronics industry would probably say ours are just speculations. You are working on eliminating such a feature though. Could you disclose why you believe it is a source of eyestrain?