tsb I first noticed problems when 7.2 went live during Legion. it was like they upped the white balance on the whole game and it became painful to look at. Haven't played in BFA.

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    degen yep, i began to see it exactly there too.

    Got the Benq today, well it flashes somehow as well, maybe not so much, but time will tell.
    Maybe there is no display out there anymore without this "trick" at all, so i'll just keep it, i'm tired of testing around pretty much now.
    Wish one could at least just switch to an open-monitor-firmware, like a dd-wrt. That could make things interesting.

    No way, the Benq goes back next week too, consumer protection here i come.

    be our guinea pig and try one of the lightboost/gsync monitors.

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      reaganry Two of the three i returned were G-sync capable. Screen tearing doesn't matter to me at all, actually nothing is a problem, only the intensity rocket in my face. 🙁

      i like the idea of sensory overload. I have some color blindness, which implies divergent levels of of rods and cones. this maybe leads to 'early clipping' of different (blue) wavelengths, and a 'staring at the sun' feeling. This explains why I get it from looking at a single led

      Just found a little bit of improvement; i'm turning on all the lamps in the room, this way the effect is a little bit less hard. Maybe. I need to play around some more.
      But anyway interesting, as the idea i got; how could i close my pupils somehow, so they don't gather that much intensity? Light makes it so, so then, let there be light.
      From Benq i got an answer about the backlight they use in their monitors, but of course this alone has nothing to do with my problem.
      Anyway, today i just made the contact with consumer protection regarding the issue, let's see how it goes.

      Just contacted nVidia, let's see what they say, however i don't expect anything useful, since the thing is some sort of a great secret, which is probably due to "money dictates". If not, then why all this?
      Doesn't matter, i'll also try maybe Microsoft; maybe it is somewhere deep in DirectX itself, as for SW side.

        tsb it's something about the "composition layer" since it started when that was introduced.

          Gurm Hi and thanx for the info. Can you elaborate it a bit more? Is it DX or somewhere else?

          tsb Good luck with a response.

          In my experience this issue is also happening on other devices and platforms, it's not just a Windows 10 problem (if only).

          We have a Samsung LED smart TV from 2017 which will display video from our Tivo V6 box just fine - however I've noticed the minute I switch over to a 4K channel with our cable provider, or stream a Netflix video in 4k either from the cable provider's stb or the Samsung Netflix app, I get similar 'dithering' eye strain after a few minutes. It seems OK with SD/HD content.

          Maybe it's the push for HDR that is causing this? Perhaps new devices switch temporal dithering on when a 4k/HDR source is sent to it?

          Gurm As I mentioned in another thread, running an Nvidia cloud PC desktop on my known good W7 machine caused the same eye strain within 5mins - just like being in front of a real Nvidia card.

          At least IMO this is all a software 'glitch'/gimmick that can hopefully be rectified. :\

          nVidia began with the same basic stuff, light blue light and what not, i think i just pass on them. I'm pretty sure one can not get a useful answer from them "big companies".
          I was playing a bit with contrast/brightness/gamma settings and actually found that nothing improves with those. However i also noticed what i forgot to mention; there is also some sort of super-hyper crispiness in all these images rendered, or even the monitor screens, where content edges occur as contrast. Interestingly, altogether this looks really sharp, but not only that, but also gives the "objects" some kind of depth; one could also say some sort of pseudo-VR-feeling popping from the screen. Problem is, then, if i try to focus on the edges/contrast of these kind of content, for example some bright stuff on a black background, i loose focus; i.e. my eyes are not able to properly focus on them. That's another easy way to detect such a technique to be present.

          That is a decent way to describe it.

          martin Interesting, but then why i don't have any problems with my old monitor, old notebook, or my OLED TV? Or i missed something from your link :S

            tsb Doesnt matter, its been discussed here a million times with no clear reason found. Simply new tech is different, but you only notice it if you have specific eye issues. At least in my case it was so. I dont have time in my life to figure out why that is so, as this has been going for years now. I was looking for a cure and this was it.

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              martin Thanx for your info! Does it mean you are actually cured and you have no more related problems?

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