Unbelievable, I'm reading up on 2004 and one of the features they removed was Windows To Go.. the very feature I was planning on using to take a look at it.. The laptop I want to try stuff on isn't mine, so I can't install to the internal drive.. need to use an external drive. MS is too aggressive with removing features people want, and giving them features they don't.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/planning/windows-10-removed-features

Of interest to this group it says here in version 1809: "The FontSmoothing setting let you specify the font antialiasing strategy to use across the system. We've changed Windows 10 to use ClearType by default, so we're removing this setting as it is no longer necessary. If you include this setting in the unattend.xml file, it'll be ignored."

After all these years of having CT turned off in 10, it's back again? Prior to 1809 it was greyscale AA which is interesting because here people commented that 1803 was alright but not so much after.

diop Does that Intel/Nvidia driver setup cause symptoms on an earlier W10 build?

Yes, I've never been able to use my current laptop with the graphics adapters enabled - the only setup that has worked for me is version 1511 with the MS Basic Display Adapter. Very interested to see if I can keep using the GPUs without symptoms developing - it's still early days but so far it's looking good.

diop WDDM has been updated on this latest build

In dxdiag.exe my Intel graphics are showing as using WDDM 2.1 and my Nvidia graphics using WDDM 2.3. This will be because I haven't updated the drivers presumably?

        I installed Windows 10 version 2004 fresh from ISO, and it has Nvidia (GT 710) drivers 430.00 and WDDM 2.6.

          KM I think NVidia is still to release the drivers 450.12. Only then Windows will update to WDDM 2.7.

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            tfouto Your Dell XPS 15 9560, is it 4k glossy or FHD matte?

            I have the matte FHD version. I'm also getting delivery tomorrow of the new XPS 15 9500 to test. Also FHD, with Nvidia 1650Ti graphics so it will be interesting to see how that feels in comparison on 2004.

            I've just remembered that I also haven't returned my Surface Book 3 that I bought for testing. It was so horrible on 1909 I could barely look at it so it might be interesting to update it to 2004 to check it out before resetting & returning.

                si_edgey Which brightness do you use? I usually have to turn brightness almost to zero. To much light to me is one of the major offenders to my eyes. Also Flux helps me. Does flux help you?

                  Might be worthwhile trying to move to Linux. Linux distros have a plethora of desktop shells to choose from, and they are fantastically more configurable than anything Windows has ever offered. Mint with the Cinnamon desktop has some pretty fine grain controls around dithering, RGB values, you can change the direction of anti aliasing, it's really configurable.

                  Then from there set up a VirtualBox and install Windows on it, and you would be all set. You can set up your windows applications for seemless virtualization, so when you click the icon on your linux desktop, it fires up Windows in the background and displays the program on your Linux desktop. This would give you complete control over the visual layer of your user interface. And you can easily backup the virtual HD so rolling back any Windows changes would take a few seconds at most.

                  I'm looking at trying it myself, I'm going to set up Lubuntu on a spare HDD (you can get 1TB sata drives for less than $50) and then virtualize Windows 7 and go from there. In the past I have found that the XFCE desktop causes me no problems. Might be worth playing with in your spare time so you at least have an option. You can rest assured Microsoft is NOT going to stop auto updating Windows 10 or pushing out changes without your consent or testing. Thats just working with a time bomb in my opinion. I'm an absolute Linux noob and even I can stumble along to an install and getting a VM set up, and then you are just in Windows running on Linux

                    ensete Might be worthwhile trying to move to Linux.

                    Unpopular opinion perhaps, but I actually really like Windows 10 and finally version 2004 seems fairly easy on the eyes..

                    I get where you're coming from @ensete and if that's the route you'd like to go then fair enough, but I think most people (myself included) need a simple and reliable solution to their problem. I'm very tech-savvy but realistically I want to use a single OS to do everything I need, in an ultra-stable and simple way.

                    I personally wouldn't want to perform music on stage or speak at a conference with Windows running inside Linux - I just can't see how it would be stable enough for real-world, high-end application from my past experience of running virtual environments.

                    ensete You can rest assured Microsoft is NOT going to stop auto updating Windows 10 or pushing out changes without your consent or testing.

                    It's super simple to stop any updates using this software:

                    https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-5/

                    I've not had an update other than ones I've chosen for many years now. 😀

                          ensete Might be worthwhile trying to move to Linux.

                          On a personal setup? I would definately switch to Linux tomorrow if it could be guaranteed symptom-free.

                          The average office worker has zero flexibility on the OS used. It's 99% Windows in the business world, with exception to IT/creative companies and smaller startups. Also offices will be running the latest W10 and drivers (otherwise the IT administrators aren't doing their job). This is why we still need to look into a solution. I can continue to use old tech in my home for years and I've pretty much resigned to that if that's what it takes. To keep a wage coming in I will have to continue to use this 'bad' tech, which is the real issue.

                            Can't believe this is modern Windows 10.

                              ensete Mint with the Cinnamon desktop has some pretty fine grain controls around dithering, RGB values, you can change the direction of anti aliasing, it's really configurable.

                              Screenshot?

                                  JTL I'm not running it right now you might find screenshots of the Cinnamon display control on the internet.

                                  I personally wouldn't want to perform music on stage or speak at a conference with Windows running inside Linux - I just can't see how it would be stable enough for real-world, high-end application from my past experience of running virtual environments.

                                  I mean, the most stable environments on the world are virtualized, it's the entire point behind cloud computing, but if you aren't comfortable with it, then to each his own. Again, whatever works for you, thats what you should do.

                                  The average office worker has zero flexibility on the OS used. It's 99% Windows in the business world, with exception to IT/creative companies and smaller startups. Also offices will be running the latest W10 and drivers (otherwise the IT administrators aren't doing their job). This is why we still need to look into a solution. I can continue to use old tech in my home for years and I've pretty much resigned to that if that's what it takes. To keep a wage coming in I will have to continue to use this 'bad' tech, which is the real issue.

                                  Very true. I am lucky that my workplace offers a Citrix environment you can connect to, so I can set up a linux PC at home and then Citrix into Windows 10 and maintain my visual controls. I demo'd that last year and it worked, and when they move us of Windows 7 that will be my daily solution.

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                                      ensete I mean, the most stable environments on the world are virtualized, it's the entire point behind cloud computing, but if you aren't comfortable with it, then to each his own. Again, whatever works for you, thats what you should do.

                                      Hardware passthrough is another can of worms

                                        ensete I'm not running it right now you might find screenshots of the Cinnamon display control on the internet.

                                        Not seeing anything that different, unless I'm looking in the wrong places.

                                          tfouto Because modern Windows 10 is very uncomfortable immediately. This seems better. Could be the first usable post 1511 build. Need more time with it to make that kind of determination. If it holds up that would be a huge development.

                                              si_edgey Are you going to be doing the monthly cumulative updates?

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