Quad43 Great! Does the laptop triggers you to feel the symptoms or is it "safe"? What's the model?

From what I've researched about the monitors during the last few days:

  • It must be either "G-sync Ultimate" or "G-sync", as "G-sync compatible" monitors don't have the integrated processor that we are curious about. Which in theory might not use dithering when connected to Nvidia GPU. You can read more about it in this thread - @highradio came up with this idea.
  • Avoid NanoIPS (some DELLs) as many people said that it causes them the symptoms.
  • Simply check the model on Ledstrain and Google - something like "[model] eyestrain", just to make sure that others aren't getting the symptoms.
  • Avoid 6 bits + FRC. I suggest choosing 8 bits or 8 bits + FRC, or 10 bits (if such exists). If it's 8 bits + FRC, make sure that on your first try you disable the FRC, so just choose 8 BPC in Nvidia Control Panel and not 10 BPC.
    You can use: https://www.displayspecifications.com

      MPaz It's "ok". Razer Blade Pro 17. Someone else here reported it was perfect with the nvidia 2070, I got the 2080 and it's ok but definitely get a little ache in the temples - which is very different what I get with Intel-based machines (above the eyes)

      Any ideas which monitor model suits your above reqs?

        It really depends on the budget. I suggest you to go over the list and check each. I'd also go with VA / IPS.
        I will get my ASUS ROG Swift PG259QN in a couple of weeks, so you might try something else.

        P.S. have you disabled your integrated GPU? There might be an option somewhere in the settings or in the BIOS as your laptop in theory shouldn't cause the symptoms, unless it still uses Intel GPU at some point.

          jrhack 2004 and 20H2 are not comfortable for me.

            jrhack

            22.20.16.4836

            Only Intel GPU driver version for UHD 630 adapter (looks like there is a version of it for UHD 620 as well) that works on old pre Anniversary edition Windows 10 builds (I use Windows 10 2015 LTSB exclusively on all my machines, except for my desktop which I am experimenting dual-booting with Linux Mint 20.1. I also have 2015 LTSB on my Dell XPS 15 7590s, which was the last XPS 15 to support old Windows builds with some tweaking).

            Yes the driver version is older, from 2017. But if I boot this same driver up on new Windows builds it is painful.

                More recently than when I started this thread I have been running my Nvidia Quadro K4000 on my desktop instead of the Intel GPU or GTX 650 Ti Boost. I haven't done enough A/B testing comparing to the other adapters but I've been tolerating it. I've switched to the viewpoint that with my graphics adapters in a pretty good place, good panels, tolerable OS, that most of my strain is coming from software sources now. Web browers which is well known now and others which were mentioned recently like Office and pdf readers.

                Was accessing the website versions of Office on Pale Moon last night and that seemed more tolerable than the desktop application. Pale Moon is still my most comfortable browser (sometimes I think Waterfox Classic is OK, but I'm not sure. Pale Moon is better. Basilisk is another one I've been meaning to try).

                  degen So do you figure it must be the WDDM layer that hurts in newer builds of Windows?

                      jrhack Might be part of it, but definitely not the whole story since using a driver with an old WDDM version as verified in dxdiag still causes eyestrain.

                          degen @%#*! this issue is frustrating!! How is there not an office line of graphics products for working mainly with text comfortably?? Everything is driven by gaming so there's all this advanced 3D and color rendering that all our signals go through just show words on a screen!!

                              MPaz Indeed, even uninstalled it from Device Manager so I only have Nvidia and disabled the setting in Bios.
                              Non-gsync laptop: over eye aches
                              Gsync laptop: temple (side of head) aches

                              Definitely up for a monitor suggestion to buy and try on Nsync.

                                jrhack Do give 2004/2H2 a try. As you mentioned some others have found workable setups with them. Just do a backup of your working setup.

                                    degen I highly recommend Acronic True Image for taking a 'Snapshot' of your working setup that you can easily revert back to.

                                      Quad43 XB273U NX seems worth a try. XB323QK NV is only G-sync compatible and XV282K KV is AMD FreeSync. However, it seems that these will be available only in May.

                                        degen Could you tell me where to get those drivers for UHD 630? I searched on Intel Downloadcenter and could only find 26.20.100.7985 as the oldest ones (from 3/25/2020)

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                                            jrhack Thanks! I also found them on softpedia, and tried them on 20H2. Still dizziness for me. The 2015 LTSB would not install on my system, 9th gen i7 laptop

                                                Alyosha2001 What was the issue with the install? Make sure you switch from Intel RST in the BIOS to ACHI. The new Intel RST drivers won’t run on 2015 LTSB and this gets around that.

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