chahahc I really need to research how I could reliably test if the screen has black frame insertion or not. From what I know, monitors that use BFI employ it by using PWM, that is, turning off the backlight, which this monitor obviously can't do. Of course I don't discount that the same couldn't be done by inserting an actual frame where every pixel was set to black (a type of BFI which isn't really used in the monitor industry), but inserting a black frame for a monitor that only does 60 Hz refresh rate would rather be counterproductive for a monitor solely reliant on ambient light, because that could/would yield decreased brightness.

Still I'm curious on whether this was the case. However, it could take some time to do that as I would probably need a camera that can record at 120 frames per second which I unfortunately do not own.

    seeker_of_no_light

    Indeed that's why I was so perplexed at the flickering. I just couldn't think of why they would implement any of those things in this monitor. Funnily enough right after I wrote that post My Deep Guide posted his full video review of the monitor and showed with a 480fps recording that there is indeed no flickering https://youtu.be/XQms-iHX9RQ?t=418. So the first video that showed flickering indeed seems like it was just some weird camera aberration. Which begs the question, what kind of camera aberration would cause such a thing.

    19 days later

    I have the Sun Vision monitor now. I will post my impressions when I have more time with it, but let me know if you have any questions.

    I am testing on known good (for me) setup with Windows 10 2015 LTSB and Intel Integrated graphics. I do use Kepler series Nvidia cards to game on occasion but they are not quite as comfortable (but not terrible like newer Nvidia cards). I expect the Sun Vision monitor will pass along any OS or graphics card level strain.

      degen

      Oh that's great. How long did it take you to receive the monitor?

        chahahc It took about two weeks for the company to ship it, and another week for me to get it in Canada. When I ordered the company still had some stock in, and they had just established a waiting list.

        8 days later

        This monitor is fantastic. There are no flicker symptoms on a good setup.

        It does pass through strain from bad OS, GPU and software as expected.

        However, it eliminates a major factor in eyestrain which is spectrum and flicker. To otherwise eliminate these issues you would need to find a Quantum Dot monitor or TV with low ripple and pixel inversion, etc.

        I cannot recommend it enough if you have a good setup you want to amplify.

        If you are trying to make a bad setup tolerable e-ink MAY be a better option (unsure, @ensete already mentioned modern Windows causes him strain on e-ink, which is very concerning).

        I still need to set up a proper lighting situation for evenings though, which I mentioned in some other posts pertaining to LED strip lighting.

        Having a good setup, I only find myself turning to e-ink when it is dark. E-ink is legible with much less light (I have NOT messed with the settings on the Sun Vision yet).

          degen is bad setup tolerable with this monitor? How long you are able to work in front of monitor comfortably with bad setup?

            denise_eca that's weird that you can't access it - try to google the company name and try to access their website like that, but they do sell and ship the monitor internationally (as for me, I bought it from Germany). The procedure of ordering it was a bit different for non-US customers, because their checkout form didn't allow to choose a destination outside of the US (don't know if they have changed it since then), but using their contact form and notifying them of the issue, they have taking good care to get my monitor shipped as soon as possible once I paid their invoice (unfortunately you have to expect to pay a hefty customs tax bill afterwards).

            Edit: I see I got ninja'd 😃 but it seems you still have to contact them directly for a non-US purchase.

              denise_eca I paid roughly 320 euros customs taxes on top of the 275 dollars shipping, so I would assume that it should be pretty similar to your destination. I think nobody would be surprised if I told them I was like "holy cannoli!" when I saw the Fedex bill.

                seeker_of_no_light Yep. They declare the full value of the monitor (and fairly I can’t blame them for that), and so the customs fee from FedEx was also huge here in Canada.

                karthi3219 A bad setup is not tolerable. Things I am sensitive to like OS, video card — problems with these are on full display with this monitor. It only eliminates the backlight problem, which is the need to lower the brightness to minimum on most (non Quantum Dot) monitors. Not having to worry about that and to have a well lit screen with sunlight coming in my office, that’s good for me with my basic Intel integrated graphics on legacy Windows. This monitor eliminates a hugely problematic variable, but is not a cure-all.

                Is the surface of the monitor glass like an apple display or just a glossy polarizer film?

                  chahahc Not sure. How may I tell? It does not have a matte appearance, that's for sure. Yet I don't see glare from it unless the sun is low in the sky and shining directly on it from a low angle.

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