Lauda89

dutv

Thanks! Unfortunately, I cannot install this kind of software on my business laptop. As per post above, I paused updates by the maximum number of days allowed (35) in Windows Update Settings. That will do for a while. Then, if version 22H2 reinstalls and it is still uncomfortable, I will reverse the update again and set a new pause.

ensete Your company MSA between them and MS likely requires them to maintain a certain level of patch compliance

My IT admin rolls selected security patches once a month and was unaware of MS updates sneaking through. He now suspects that there is a limit to what our organization can control in terms of updates, as you suggested. However, since no one in the company is bothered by this issue, he sounded like he is not going to investigate the matter further.

arturpanteleev I also sent them a link to your article about this issue and they mentioned that this is exactly what they experienced. In most cases, the monitor turns yellow, they say.

It is great that MS staff have experienced issues too. However, my display did not run yellow, so it might be a different problem. Anyhow, good work! Thanks for your persistence!

PS: after reversing from 22H2 to 21H2, I forgot to deactivate Google automatic updates. Yesterday I rebooted my laptop and had a bit of eyestrain afterwards. It took me a while to realize a new version of Chrome had installed, and another while to re-figure out how to prevent Chrome from updating. Luckily, it looks like I can handle version 108.0.5359.73 after some initial struggle but, oh boy, what a nightmare! It is a jungle. Now the Google Update window continuously pops up.

          ryans i think it possible. I am gonna write to support at he end of the week again. Maybe. we should creates more topics to be noticed. Of course it is not quicky process

            si_edgey This fixed my issue on 22H2, hope it works for you too.

            unfortunelly, it hasn't worked for me 🙁

            By the way. i noticed that problem is not at 22h2 version, cause when i try common updates this problem always come. Now i think that problem is in some november updates of windows. I will try to specify defined updation package

              7 days later

              Hello! Today i had a conversation with support engenier again. and of course he couldn't help me. But he gave me advice to use "Feedback Hub App" - it is kind of support. BUT with engeniers and it is more about technical problem. Support agen said that in this app ansering is more quickly and there are more technical specialist there. I do not know - is it true or he just wanted to push me with my problem to other department 🙂

              Anyway, we should use any posbibility to find any help. so i created a feedback there. You can support me there or just see what it is https://aka.ms/AAizv23

                18 days later

                arturpanteleev

                https://ledstrain.org/d/2026-w11-kb5020875-update

                Try to see if the update number KB5020875 is installed. If yes, uninstall it and reboot.

                I am still on W11 21H2 enterprise but the update that destroyed my perfectly working setup is the one there. If I uninstall it everything comes back perfect, but company policies force me to update every day so every day I have to uninstall it.

                    Oh boy, and to think that I was going to do this update earlier today 😮

                    I just received solid proof that guardian angels exist - one such must have saved me from inflicting this upon myself……

                    Lauda89

                    Unfortunatelly, i cann't catch update, that break my perfect expierence. This is kind of the "shadow" updates, cause i don't see it in journal, and cannot to delete it. Now i use windows update blocker. but it doesnt help to me(cause it seems like no updates were installed) Something changes in my syste without any traces. I have no idea what it could be and how can i define it. I just reinstall windows every day when i need my computer 🙁 But i think i cannot live this wy for a long time.

                    Anyway, i am absolutely sure, tht this started on end of october- begining of the november 2022. Maybe this fact would help to discover this problem someday

                        ryans If it was a BIOS or VBIOS update, that wouldn't be impacted by reinstalling Windows.

                          ryans No. i checked bios. it has old version. This is defenetly something inside windows. But i couldnt find any traces. It is very strange - i checked eventvwr - and i didn't find any install or updates events. It looks like fucking magic. Some people say, thath DWM could be the reason - but it couldnt be updated without any traces. Very very strange things.

                          Now i gonna try win10. maybe it hasn't this kind of "shadow" update

                            OK, I'M GONNA SAY IT AND YOU'RE GONNA HATE ME, BUT HEAR ME OUT 🫥

                            I did a back up and went to Win11 22H2. Also went for the latest NVIDIA GameReady driver version which is 527.56

                            IT IS FUCKING AMAZING!!!! Can't even compare to Win 11 21H2, it blows it away! The 3D effect is gone, the slight shimmering on letters is gone, colors are vivid but without plucking your brains out all the time.

                            I played PUBG on 165Hz for SEVERAL HOURS. Several Hours bruh… do you realize what that means?!?! It means this is the "HOLY GRAIL" driver and Windows version combo for me!!! I can recommend anyone with NVIDIA RTX 30 series GPU try that combo (but not before they make a back up of their working setup)!

                            I immediately did an image and tried all ways possible to stop Windows Update and managed to stop it so far.

                            The things that helped me to stop Win Update are the following two:

                            https://linustechtips.com/blogs/entry/1474-eleven-different-ways-to-disable-windows-update-in-windows-10-updated-march-2019/

                            AND

                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRom8GhkuUs&ab_channel=Pureinfotech

                            Good luck gang! I came to realize it is NOT the display/monitor at fault. IT'S ALL SOFTWARE AND RENDERING! It's all how the f-ing OS/software draws these frames on your screen!!!

                            I will definitely be sticking to these two combined - Win 11 22H2, build 22621.963 and NVIDIA GR driver 527.56.

                              Oshim
                              If you try changing monitors you will probably return to symptoms. It's the combination of monitor and software not just the software.

                              But this knowledge is useless if no one can figure out why with the same setup one software is good and the other is not.

                                Oshim, great job finding something good for you. On my regular PC, if I force install W11 it will use a video driver from 2016 because Intel stopped updating the igpu driver long ago so I might have a very different experience. I do have a Steam Deck, I should try a Windows-to-Go drive on it sometime and see what happens since the drivers for it are current AMD ones (for RDNA2).

                                  Sunspark

                                  @Sunspark , if you're using an Intel internal graphics adapter, please try Ditherig.exe. It completely removes temporal dithering.

                                  I've tried it on my wife's laptop and it works wonders. Yes, a lot of gradient but who cares when it's good on the eyes.

                                  Someone here mentioned that laptops only go to 266 000 colors or something along those lines and dither all the rest up to 16.7 million. Ditherig.exe completely stops the dithering and I can confirm that it's very nice on the eyes. You should definitely try it with the internal graphics (that's what it was invented for).

                                  Good luck!

                                    ryans What graphics does she have? Intel Iris or something else?

                                    Hi @ryans , it's an old i7 CPU with Intel® HD Graphics 3000

                                      Oshim I tried Win 11 22H2, build 22621.963 and NVIDIA GR driver 527.56. with my build: 1660 super + ryzen 7900X + aliewnware aw2518hf and dosn't work for me. 🙁

                                          Lauda89

                                          Very sorry to hear that :/

                                          What's your monitor's panel? Mine is Innolux (using a Gigabyte M32q monitor). I've had huge problems with LG and AU Optronics panels in the past.

                                          Also, I don't know anything about GTX 1660… I've had a 780 Ti and a 1080 before the 3080 and it did not collaborate well with LG and AU Optronics panels' monitors.

                                          Seems you were correct that with a different setup it will yield different result and unfortunately you had to prove yourself right in a bad way. 🙁

                                          *addition to above after checking your monitor

                                          Hey, I just saw that your monitor has a TN panel. Could it be that FRC/dithering is the problem. TN panels tend to be 6 bit and to reach 8 bit color they dither a lot. Could this be the issue with you?

                                          To see if this is the case, please try this in the NVIDIA control panel:

                                              Oshim You are right, my monitor is 6BIT + FRC. Inside the nvidia control pannel i can't chose 6BIT, i've already tried with HDMI and also Display Port.
                                              I will try to change the monitor with an OLED 27" 240HZ when they will be available.

                                                dutv I'm going to try it tonight.

                                                That update is the same one that gives me problems on my work laptop KB5020875.

                                                KB5020875 W11 21H2

                                                KB5020880 W11 22H2

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