jasonpicard The concern for me using Amazon for monitors is the shipping can be all the way from and to Ontario and that's a bit far and expensive (I'd also be concerned about damage)

Some other great points though.

    11 days later

    Guys, do you find recent Chrome or Windows 10 versions easier on the eyes? I was amazed that making clean W10 install resurrected my MS Surface Pro usability. It used to cause me nausea just after few seconds of staring at it and it's not doing it anymore in W10 or in Chrome (which I remember to be inferior to Edge in this regard). The issue still exists with older full-sceen games, so it's not something related to "me" (although I have new glasses, which may help). Now I can read webpages for multiple hours and nothing unusual happens. If it's not a general thing, then probably some of my settings was wrong - maybe bad driver, unnecessary color profile (there's no native Surface profile installed now) ...

    • Gurm replied to this.

      andc I don't find that the latest versions are "perfect" but in fact much much better. I've used a few systems for quite a few minutes before going "hey, this is new Win10, isn't it?" and my jump boxes which under 17xx and 18xx versions of Win10 were unusable even in terminal session... are now acceptable again. So I'm going to say 1903 is pretty solid here. It's a lump of trash in many other ways (if I'm wearing my sysadmin hat). But "better". Chrome also got "better". v69/70 were TERRIBLE. Newer versions are pretty ok. Firefox did the same thing. Not sure what keeps changing.

        That's good news, at least there's a chance that someone knows what needs to be fixed 🙂

        • hpst replied to this.

          andc That's good news, at least there's a chance that someone knows what needs to be fixed 🙂

          I'd put my money on it being lucky rather than an intended change. Since we still don't know whats causing things.

            At my work they moved me from LTSB 2016 to SAC 1803. Rendering is not as comfortable anymore, and I was unhappy about it. I have no choice but to fiddle and get used to it. They did say they are testing 1809 now, so I don't have to worry about being stuck on 1803 for 3 years. I really don't get why people like Windows 10, seems like every time a new build is pushed out, it breaks a ton of stuff for everyone and for this reason I dislike software as a service.

              Sunspark Even when using Win10 Pro I would find an update would put Candy Crush back on my taskbar. Also the fact I can't delete things like Xbox/Cortana etc bugs me. It must be a nightmare for sysadmins everywhere (or a boon as it keeps them in work 😉).

              • Gurm replied to this.

                  diop you can absolutely remove those things. Google is your friend.

                      Gurm It's been a while since I used W10 and I know there's tweak tools but I thought big updates like Creators Update brought Cortana etc back. Like @Sunspark said I'm not a fan of the SAAS model either, but as long as I have control over updates to some degree I'm happy (might look into the LTSB version).

                      • Gurm replied to this.

                          diop no tweak tools. Just built-in MS command lines such as removeapppackage. However, you're probably right that it will come back with major updates. Yet another reason I use LTSB.

                              Gurm Not meaning to sidetrack, but at home why even use LTSB at all? Why not 8.1 or 7?

                                For me, on Surface there's no other option, at least official . With some hacks 7 or 8 might be possible, but I guess more issues will be present because of non-standard drivers, etc.

                                22 days later

                                Has someone ever tried the new notebooks with oled screens? maybe they could be good for our eyes...

                                  Lauda89 All OLED laptops I've researched are known to have 60Hz modulation/flicker, so possibly a no-go for some folks.

                                      5 months later

                                      Staycalmsyndrome Hey @KM just noticed this reference to Android 7.1.2 by @Staycalmsyndrome, specifically without patches after 2018, to be comfortable for him ("Android 7.1.2 with patches > 2018 = QQ"). His tablet is also on 7.1.2 So Paranoid Android dev left out or forgot some patches that OnePlus team applied, as we suspected.

                                        3 months later

                                        What works decently for me

                                        • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3610ME CPU @ 2.70GHz (4 CPUs), 2.7GHz
                                          Operating System: Windows Embedded Standard 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850)
                                          Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
                                          Driver File Version: 9.17.0010.2932
                                          Monitor Model: S1703
                                          Native Mode: 1024 x 768(p) (60Hz)
                                          Current Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60Hz)
                                          Output Type: DVI

                                        • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (8 CPUs), 3.5GHz
                                          Operating System: Windows 10 Home 32-bit (10.0, Build 17763) (17763.rs5_release.180914-1434)
                                          Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
                                          Driver File Version: 10.18.10.4358
                                          Monitor Model: DELL P2312H
                                          Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60Hz)
                                          Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60Hz)
                                          Output Type: DVI-D
                                          REMARK: I can clearly notice pixel glowing / fuzziness but for some reason I can handle this setup (at least it does not add on eystrain to the one already caused by the overhead lamps)

                                        • Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3530 @ 2.80GHz (4 CPUs), 2.8GHz
                                          Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.180810-0600)
                                          Card name: NVIDIA Quadro NVS 295
                                          Driver File Version: 8.16.0011.9175
                                          Monitor Model: Dell P190S(Digital)
                                          Native Mode: 1280 x 1024(p) (60.020Hz)
                                          Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
                                          Output Type: DVI

                                        • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (4 CPUs), 2.7GHz
                                          Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_ldr.170209-0600)
                                          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 710
                                          Monitor Model: DELL UP3017
                                          Native Mode: 2560 x 1600(p) (59.972Hz)
                                          Current Mode: 2560 x 1600 (32 bit) (60Hz)
                                          Driver File Version: 10.18.0013.5921
                                          Output Type: HDMI
                                          REMARK: Needed to adjust to the huge monitor!

                                        • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz (8 CPUs), 3.4GHz
                                          Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise 64-bit (10.0, Build 17134)
                                          Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
                                          Driver File Version: 20.19.0015.4454
                                          Monitor Model: DELL E1916H
                                          Native Mode: 1366 x 768(p) (59.790Hz)
                                          Current Mode: 1366 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
                                          Output Type: HD15 (VGA)
                                          REMARKS: Not particularly pleasant, but display settings (which I cannot adjust) may worsen the experience.

                                        • Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU W3550 @ 3.07GHz (4 CPUs), 3.1GHz
                                          Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.110622-1506)
                                          Card name: AMD FirePro V3900 (ATI FireGL)
                                          Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1103
                                          Monitor Model: DELL PA241W
                                          Native Mode: 1920 x 1200(p) (59.950Hz)
                                          Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)
                                          Output Type: DVI

                                        • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4160 CPU @ 3.60GHz (4 CPUs), 3.6GHz
                                          Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.151230-0600)
                                          Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400
                                          Driver File Version: 10.18.14.4280
                                          Monitor Model: DELL E2416H
                                          Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
                                          Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
                                          Output Type: HD15 (VGA)


                                        Usable devices for me at the moment without problems:

                                        Microsoft Surface Laptop 2 i5/8GB/256
                                        HP Chromebook HP-14DB0006AU
                                        External Monitors 27" 2k BenQ BL2710, 32" 2k, Philips Brilliance 328B

                                        Devices with workarounds
                                        Smartphone LG v50 (although needs to have OLED Saver app running for indoor use i.e. brightness less than 62%)
                                        Smartphone LG v30 ( brightness above 42%)
                                        Notebook Thinkpad Yoga 460 FHD IPS screen (brightness above 50%)

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