jordan Hypothetically, 120hz e-ink would probably still need full refresh pretty frequently since ghosting would likely remain an issue

Also given that the only way we've managed to surpass slow Kindle-like refresh speeds so far is with fast modes that use dithering, dither-free fast modes in general still seems to be out of reach for the tech

Btw, since I mentioned Kindles, I think it would be helpful to document here that the reason why the Kindle Paperwhite causes strain is due to it constantly keeping the backlight on even at the very lowest level of the slider. The backlight actually cannot be disabled.

However, in comparison, the Kindle Oasis (whatever model was latest in early 2022) feels incredible to read — one reason is because the backlight actually can be turned off on this specific model, unlike the Paperwhite.

I also swear that the Oasis screen panel or anti reflective coating just feels much crisper and sharper to my eyes in general compared to the Paperwhite, even when backlight is enabled.

      DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs there was some kind of hack allowing you to completely turn off backlight for Kindle. still, in my case, that doesn't help. but that's mostly because of my eye problem I guess.

        4 days later

        I personally love Hisense's e-ink phones on smooth mode. The backlight was what bugged me but I can always turn it off. So far, I've been looking into (and lamenting the lack of) smooth e-ink tablets. I wanted a bigger screen for manga and videos and not have to strain the heck out of my eyes. Sadly there's none available… so I guess I can forward to this one?

        DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs
        I was under the impression that the Kindle Paperwhite was flicker/PWM free? Granted I couldn't actually find a definitive answer either way the last time I looked and no measurements either but the consensus was that the front lights didn't use PWM.

        It would be helpful to know if anyone has any info on this as I bought one recently but have been wary of using it. For what it's worth it doesn't seem to have triggered any eyestrain symptoms for me so far although I've only used it sparingly and besides my symptoms are varied and not always immediate so it's always difficult to know the cause given how much flickering lighting we are exposed to daily. Some light only gives me brain fog (inflammation) which can also be difficult to notice when it's mild and comes and goes. All I can do at the moment is eliminate known sources of flicker from my life as much as I can.

        (Apologies to the OP for the offtopic post but every thread on here seems to branch tangentially so I thought it wouldn't hurt

        For what it's worth I'm looking forward to more info about this tablet and eventually some testing. More products promoting and raising awareness about eye health are a good thing as long as they do what they promise to do.)

          10 days later

          Curious about seeing video performance and flickering. Cool concept tough if it works.

          a month later

          I once tried to read the entire internet in a day. My eyes went on strike and demanded better working conditions.

          No flicker, no lag, no blue light... are you sure you didn't make a deal with a wizard or something? Because this sounds like sorcery to me. But hey, I'm willing to be enchanted

          I'm thrilled with your approach to the display and can't wait to try it. I've been on a quest to optimize my reading experience across various devices. Right now, I'm excited about my new OLED iPad with the nanotexture coating. Based on my in-store experiences, it's been fantastic at reducing glare (one of my issues), almost like e-ink. It should arrive in June.

          I also use a Boox Tab Ultra C and keep my desktop's OLED displays on dark mode for better reading. I still have fond memories of the Palm Pilot days and their displays. I'm excited to see how your device enhances the reading experience.

          @sjix

          I would love to have this! I’m trying to finish my degree and I also have eye trouble with most devices at the moment, so all of that is on pause. If this works for me that would be amazing!!

          I'm a video editor and bought the Dasung Colour eink as my fall back just incase… but it's not really possible to video edit on the Dasung, if there was ability to use yours as a monitor it looks like it would work perfectly for video editing!!

          The product seems interesting, I hope it be successful so the technology could develop more and be accessible to more users

          I've been using a Remarkable 1 since its original release and have been looking for an upgrade. Curious to see how this turns out.

          Stoked on this device. I'm a software engineer and spend a lot of time reading on my kindle about various technologies and tech related news. However, not being able to watch videos or scroll the web easily is a hindrance. Would love to try this out

          I'm always was a lover of E-Ink technology. And all device made with that technology for me was always a destruction free things. But one thing that always destruct me in this "destruction free" devices is re-rendering pages. Yesterday I saw you device for a first time. And I immediately felt in love. I want to try it so hard, but sadly for now can't afford it. I was never winner in such "giveaways", so usually I'm not even trying. But I so hyped with this Daylight, so I decided to try my luck once again. Because it's looks unbelievable, I'm still not fully believe my eyes that this is E-Ink. I'm skeptical, but really want to try it out. Maybe this device and this type of display will be problem solver for me. I hope for the first time I'll win this giveaway 🙂

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