I was reading (here possibly) that AMD cards may have more direct ways to disable dithering. If I find this to be true, I will be building a full AMD PC here soon. I’ve wanted a good excuse to upgrade, but this would be a very good reason to do so.

    Clokwork Just a heads up. I've only confirmed that's the case with the Radeon Pro W55500 under Linux.

    I haven't completed my testing, but I have reason to believe other Radeon cards may not be okay for dithering.

      I'm noticing big issues in OS versions on Mac devices. It has nothing at all to do with dithering

      3 months later

      Apple deciding to use temporal dithering from here on out 100% excludes me from their lineup. Somehow my iPhone X works for me. Seems it will be my last i device unfortunately.

        Clokwork Mee too! The Iphone X is one of the best device i've ever had. Zero eye strain..
        Honestly i've never tried other recent iphone, but next year i will try to change it.

            Clokwork

            Lauda89

            It's odd that the X works for you guys, I wonder what makes it different than the later OLED iPhones. The X was extremely harsh on my eyes, just like the 11, 12, and 13.

            Do either of you have issues with any of the modern iPads or Macs?

                  bkdo

                  I absolutely do. All of the new products with screens that apple makes currently are unusable for me. I wish I could get apple to confirm, but I am close to 100% certain my issue is temporal dithering. This is the only common factor I have found across displays I have issues with. PWM doesn't bother me apparently according to what I use currently.

                      Clokwork Consider emailing accessibility AT apple.com. If enough people do it, they might take this seriously.

                      Apple spends a lot of time to develop VoiceOver screenreaders for blind people. That's a minority of the population, like us. We need to make Apple care by letting them know this issue exists.

                          ryans I think I have put my name in that hat already, but did so with no expectation. I can't imagine them taking it seriously, but I am a pessimist when it comes to Apple and this issue. I will try again just to make sure.

                            I've never tried the iphone 11, 12 and 13 so i can't reply.

                            I am using also the pixel 4A and it's fine for me.

                            Recenter Apple product that i've tried with bad results are:

                            • Ipad Pro 10,5" (i am still using the ipad air 2)
                            • MBA 2018
                            • MBP 16" 2019

                              3 months later

                              Donux Can you please share the EliteBook model that's usable for you?

                                Donux lower pixel density

                                Hi, out of curiosity, why lower pixel density?

                                  Lauda89 ooh. first vote for Pixel Phone. does it work for anyone else?

                                    4 days later

                                    I've had the hypothesis that display resolution could matter too. What baffles me a little is that my TV is "2k". It accepts 4k signals. I did have to dumb down my projector from 4k to 1080p, but 1080p is its' native form. It basically shakes the pixels really fast to simulate 4K. My current monitor is 1080p and the one I am eyeing is 2k.

                                    thorpee Higher resolutions mean the UI needs to be scaled up. Which could lead to fancy upscaling that causes us issues.

                                    Donux Now the problem is not eye strain, but motivating to do work rather than spend on social networks

                                    😆 Good on you!

                                    I asked that question, because historically I have always benefited from lowering the display resolution. In some cases that has transformed an unusable system into a perfectly usable one and for as many hours per day as I wanted. A change from day to night. I never found an explanation for the "trick", though, especially while most folks were going for the opposite, higher and higher resolutions.

                                    thorpee Higher resolutions mean the UI needs to be scaled up. Which could lead to fancy upscaling that causes us issues.

                                    Interesting. Are you referring to the native resolution / density of the pixels or to image re-scaling? Sorry, I am not very knowledgeable.

                                            Hi guys,

                                            I'm thinking about getting Macbook Air M1 since this hardware is great for my work. I'm very worried about eye strain since I already have a problem with it.

                                            I have glasses with blue light filter but they don't help much.

                                            Can you suggest good monitor to use with? I've seen Asus Eye Care monitors, are they any good? Is it just marketing?

                                            I've read about curved monitors being good. Anyone with experience on this?

                                            Any other recommendations on 27' monitor to pair with M1?

                                            Thank you

                                            dev