@degen For Windows 7 the last officially released Quadro driver is 441.66 but i used the oldest stable branch version i could find which is R410 U6 (412.29) February 22, 2019. They also have an older one from the "New Feature Branch" R415 U2 (416.78) November 13 2018. My Windows 7 installation is from an ISO without SP1 and i install the SP1 and minimal related updates manually and replace the outdated security certificates with one from a Windows 10 install by exporting each one manually since on an old Windows 7 ISO they will be expired. I never use Windows update to make sure nothing unwanted gets by.

@machala Usually they are listed in GPUZ, and im pretty sure all of the Quadro RTX and RTX A series use only Samsung VRAM and not Micron, Elpida or Hynix. If it isnt listed in GPUZ then you would have to take apart the heatsink/fan assembly to inspect the VRAM modules, which gives an opportunity to replace the thermal paste since the stock thermal paste from the factory is usually bad.

    Side note, my IGP only says DDR3 because it's using system memory. CPU-Z can be used to show you who the manufacturer is on the SPD tab--in my case, Kingston.

    Jack Hi, I am getting "NVAPI NvAPI_Disp_ColorControl: NVAPI_ERROR" with NvColorControl.exe, are you getting the same. Anybody knows what the issue might be?

        machala I never received that error, what version of Windows are you running and what graphics card and driver version?

            Jack It's Windows 10 21H2, NVidia drivers 457 DCH, the ones WIN 10 installed by default. I tried on a Gigabyte 1050 Ti D5, will be trying this on my second card MSI 1660 Super Ventus today. Unfortunately tomorrow is the last day when I can return the cards and the way I see it is that I'll have to do it.

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                machala Try installing the non DCH version of the drivers and see if that fixes it.

                    machala I always got that error whenever I tried NVColorControl some years back. I never found a solution.

                      Jack 472.84 standard driver, no change… perhaps it works or some cards only…

                      EDIT: same with the 1660 SUPER…

                        Jack

                        I may have missed reading something but are you saying you got two identical A4000 cards, but one of them has samsung memory and is OK to use but the other does not have samsung memory and is not ok?

                        OR

                        Do they have different GPU chips?

                            HAL9000 RTX 4000 is not RTX A4000

                            I've seen similar theories about people having "good" cards with "brand A" of VRAM and "bad" cards with "brand B" and other than that I've seen absolutely no BIOS dumps between any two such cards. Particularly in the case of the 900 series where there are discrete examples of of "good" and "bad" cards that are otherwise the exact same card. I theorize a BIOS transplant could convert a "bad" card into a "good" card.

                                JTL I believe it. Years ago I had a retail Radeon that I used with a CRT monitor. I did play with bioses for it, and even back in those days I actually replaced the retail bios with a third party oem bios because I felt the picture looked better on the CRT with it.

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                                    HAL9000 No the RTX A4000 is the newer Ampere based card similar to a RTX 3070 with Samsung VRAM which is unusable for me. The card i can use is the previous generation Quadro RTX 4000 Turing based card which also has Samsung VRAM. I wish that was the case though since if i had two identical A4000's i would 100% flash the bios of the good copy to the unusable copy.

                                    Has anyone else had success here with an RTX Turing based 20xx GPU? One user Jimbo66 reported success using a MSI RTX 2070 Super Ventus https://ledstrain.org/d/717-amd-gpu-s/5 His experience with the 5700 XT also mirrors the symptoms i had when i tested that card.

                                    In regards to Ampere based GPU's its seems so far no one has reported any success stories and they cause a lot of symptoms.

                                      Sunspark Going to laugh so hard if the underlying mechanism with the "good" versus "bad" cards that are otherwise the same model ends up being the same situation.

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                                        Jack

                                        I ran it with the settings "NvColorControl.exe 10 RGB 2" and the image looks the same as my Quadro K4200 now.

                                        1) can you say that the fonts become more thin and sharper after this action?

                                        2) does it create a registry branch:
                                        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\nvlddmkm\DisplayDatabase\XXX_mon]
                                        with the variable:
                                        "DitherRegistryKey"=hex:db,nn,nn... ??

                                        3) You only need to run the NvColorControl.exe once or every time you restart/login for the desired effect(image looks the same as my Quadro K4200) ?

                                        4) Does this setting go off after actions like changing resolutions, starting games, sleeping?

                                        5) Does your monitor support 10 bit color ?

                                        I still need to test it under Windows 10 to see if NvColorControl helps, but on my Windows 7 installation it made a huge difference.

                                        6) As far as I know, the Quadro series drivers have a built-in options in the driver GUI interface, which allows you to enable and disable dithering without additional programs.

                                        Do you see this GUI switch?

                                        It is possible that the default GUI dithering switch value of K4200 is different from A4000 ?

                                          2 months later

                                          I have two workstation in different locations and on two I had problems such as you describe. And on both of them the problem was solved by changing the BIOS version of the motherboard.
                                          I have a theory that this is due to poor compatibility of devices from different generations. For example, you have a 2018 motherboard and you put a 2022 video card into it. I think there must be desynchronization issues here.
                                          In my case, it was too fresh a bios that was not compatible with old cards, so I had to roll back. It's on the first workstation.
                                          The second one had to update the bios to the latest version. And after that my new 3070 worked fine. No eye pain, no graininess in pictures, no bad color reproduction.

                                            6 days later

                                            CepheiHR8938

                                            Ah this is very interesting, im about to upgrade my system from a Evga X79 FTW motherboard which is from 2011 running a bios from 2014 but there was an update for it in 2018 for the Spectre vulnerability so i never bothered to update it. I'll try updating to the latest bios and see if i notice any improvements. In a few days im switching my system to a Evga z490 kingpin with a i9 10900KF so it will be interesting to test the A4000 again with this new setup since the motherboard is more period correct for this GPU.

                                                14 days later

                                                CepheiHR8938

                                                I finished my upgrade and with the i9 10900k/EVGA Z490 Dark KP and Quadro RTX 4000 im using Windows 2004 build 19041.572 completely comfortably where as on my older hardware it felt grainy/strainy, not only can i use it, this is more comfortable than my Windows 7/Quadro K4200 setup, but this might be because im using a 4K monitor and Windows 10 handling font scaling better or something, not completely sure. I havent tested the RTX A4000 card since im a bit nervous it could sabotage the setup, so i ordered another NVMe SSD to clone the existing setup to that drive and swap in the A4000. I think you are 100% onto something though about the poor compatibility of devices, i think my X79 motherboard was just too old.

                                                I also noticed a huge increase in audio quality after i switched to the new Z490 motherboard through my Schiit Modi Multibit USB DAC which has a iFI Defender isolating the 5v line away from the motherboards USB power into a Allo Shanti linear power supply, because im isolating the 5v line, it shouldnt have improved/changed the audio quality but it did. On my X79 board if i ever plugged in a microphone to the 3.5mm jack on the back, it would emit a ton of electrical noise and people on discord would always complain about the noise, so maybe some motherboards have poor separation of traces/components and can suffer from noise and maybe newer graphics cards are more sensitive to this as well, just like audio equipment and TV's/Monitors.

                                                Old Setup: EVGA X79 FTW | Xeon E5-2690 | Quadro K4200&Quadro RTX 4000 | Dell UP2720Q True 10bit monitor. (unusable with new RTX A4000 and previously Windows 10 2004)

                                                New Setup: EVGA Z490 Dark KP | I9 10900K | Quadro RTX 4000 | Dell UP2720Q True 10bit monitor. (Now usable with Windows 10 2004). (Will test with RTX A4000 soon)

                                                    Jack On my X79 board if i ever plugged in a microphone to the 3.5mm jack on the back, it would emit a ton of electrical noise and people on discord would always complain about the noise, so maybe some motherboards have poor separation of traces/components and can suffer from noise

                                                    Potential interactions between GPUs and motherboards is a complex subject, but sound quality issues caused by electrical interference with motherboard audio is definitely a known thing.

                                                      Jack

                                                      The symptoms you describe are exactly what I feel in front of most modern monitors and laptop screens. Like this weird bluriness and the image not being completely flat. It's like the image is dirty. And it's not the anti glare layer as it's the same on glossy panels. I don't understand how they make images look worse than 10 years ago but somehow they do it while selling gpus for thousands of dollars. Really something is off.

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