**We invented a tablet to serve the eye-strain community.** **We’re Not E-ink** Our LivePaper technology looks like e-ink, but allows you to browse the web, watch videos, and even play games - all with no blue light, no lag, and no flicker. **Free Tablet Giveaway** We’re giving away one free tablet! Leave a comment and you’ll be entered in the raffle to win. Leave a question, feedback, your personal eye strain story - even skepticism : ) We know this is a new product, so we expect people to be a little skeptical! We can’t wait to see your comments. We’re from a company called Daylight Computer Co, and even though we’re doing our official launch soon, we wanted to offer this sneak peek to the community that we think will most benefit from our technology. The support of the eye strain community means a lot to us, and we hope you’ll stay with us up to our launch, and beyond! Give-away winner will be selected and announced on 6/15. [Check us out here, and subscribe to stay updated!](https://daylightcomputer.com/) **GIVEAWAY ANNOUNCEMENT:** Dear LEDstrain community, Thank you so much for sharing your interest and comments here. We really appreciate it. Apologies for the delay - our small team was a bit overwhelmed by the response to our launch! We are so excited to announce the winner of the Daylight Computer giveaway. Our randomly selected winner is......drumroll drumroll drumroll.....**Seagull!** Congratulations @"Seagull"#59! You will be one of the very first people to get your hands on the Daylight Computer! Six years of research, design, and work went into making this product, and we truly hope you love what we created! Please email us at: hello@daylightcomputer.com for the logistics of receiving the Daylight Computer. Thank you everyone for your interest and support. Although only one user is selected to receive the Daylight Computer, all of the stories you shared meant so much to us. We hope to succeed in our first product roll-out and bring many more eye-friendly devices to the world! If you have any questions about our product or how it is more eye-strain friendly - please continue to comment or contact us directly! Sincerely, The Daylight team

E-ink causes me nausea, but if your product produces good reviews here I may order one and try it. How did you get it to work at 60fps?

Was temporal dithering (known as "surface dithering" in the Android system) disabled in your fork of Android 13 to prevent the additional subpixel flicker that affects newer Android devices? If not, y'all need `persist.sys.use_dithering=0` in your build.prop to disable it ;) Temporal dithering is when display drivers, usually by default, are configured to flash between two similar colors over and over again to try to approximate an "in-between color" in order to fake "smoother" color transitions in photos, gradients, transparency, and shadow effects, in addition to inducing flicker and "shimmer" on the grayscale edges of pretty much all antialiased text (because of the many shades of gray present at edges of text). Temporal dithering can exist in different forms both at the GPU/OS level (the aforementioned "surface dithering" Android feature) — and at the LCD panel level (known as FRC/Frame Rate Control) This unfortunate tactic is used on pretty much all modern iOS and Mac devices, and most importantly, I'm pretty sure is also the display driver default on recent Android versions such as 13. For example, my PWM-free iPhone SE 2 still has extremely annoying temporal dithering flicker to my eyes when looking at a static page, compared to my old iPhone 6 that appears much more comfortable, still, and honestly more beautiful. I also own an iPhone 5 with iOS 6 that appears **entirely** still. Because of this pixel-level flicker, the SE 2 is not a comfortable device to use despite not showing obvious backlight flicker on a slow motion camera. E-ink devices are usually immune to this as they simply don't refresh when a static page is being displayed, but given that your display is a 60fps RLCD, it's extremely important that this additional source of pixel flicker is verified not to be present in your version of Android. For me and many other members of this forum, devices that utilize heavy temporal dithering — even with a PWM-free backlight — can sometimes cause just as much (or more) eye strain and reading difficulties as devices that use PWM dimming. Let me know if your team has already been aware of this :)

To me it seems that option is the same as "Surface Dithering" in Developer Options. If I understand correctly, it is static dithering and not temporal dithering. I.e. it is not to be classified as "pixel flicker" and there are is no change happening over time. Though the information available online seems rather limited, and online talk about this does typically not differentiate between "static" and "temporal", so I'd be curious what others here think.

I'd love to win this and I have an eink yt channel so I'll do a review. I recently bought the tcl nxtpaper 40 and while it does reduce eye strain its still an lcd with filters and matte screen. Is yours RLCD?

I really hope it doesn't use temporal dithering or FRC. I think everyone here would prefer true 6 bit over 6+2frc. Can you verify if this tablet uses FRC and dithering ? I wish it was 120hz or at least 90hz refresh rate

@"DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs"#p33933 can I turn off dithering on android by this line? persist.sys.use_dithering=0

@"orangepeel"#p33929 Thanks for the great question! And I'm sorry to hear about your nausea. We have a setting in the tablet that pushes it to work at 60-120 fps. So no effort required.

@"DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs"#p33933 Great insight! I'm going to pass this along to my engineering team and get back to you!

@"vegeta97"#p33935 Hi, thanks for your question! The Daylight Tablet uses a special kind of ePaper, with some proprietary IP that makes it - in our humble opinion - pretty darn special. We call it LivePaper. It's similar to the Pebble watch. It lets us look like e-ink, while having a fast and smooth frame rate. Also, what's your Youtube channel? I'd love to check it out!

@"Daylight_Co"#p33944 so this is capable of 120hz refresh rate ?

New Tablet Giveaway - NO blue light. NO flicker.

sjix

@sjix

I would love to have this! I’m trying to finish my degree and I also have eye trouble with most devices at the moment, so all of that is on pause. If this works for me that would be amazing!!

GBowler

I'm a video editor and bought the Dasung Colour eink as my fall back just incase… but it's not really possible to video edit on the Dasung, if there was ability to use yours as a monitor it looks like it would work perfectly for video editing!!

darklm

The product seems interesting, I hope it be successful so the technology could develop more and be accessible to more users

qualityketchup

I've been using a Remarkable 1 since its original release and have been looking for an upgrade. Curious to see how this turns out.

willjvan

Stoked on this device. I'm a software engineer and spend a lot of time reading on my kindle about various technologies and tech related news. However, not being able to watch videos or scroll the web easily is a hindrance. Would love to try this out

Leviartan

I'm always was a lover of E-Ink technology. And all device made with that technology for me was always a destruction free things. But one thing that always destruct me in this "destruction free" devices is re-rendering pages. Yesterday I saw you device for a first time. And I immediately felt in love. I want to try it so hard, but sadly for now can't afford it. I was never winner in such "giveaways", so usually I'm not even trying. But I so hyped with this Daylight, so I decided to try my luck once again. Because it's looks unbelievable, I'm still not fully believe my eyes that this is E-Ink. I'm skeptical, but really want to try it out. Maybe this device and this type of display will be problem solver for me. I hope for the first time I'll win this giveaway 🙂

Seagull

So I guess they never gave anyone a free tablet

EDIT: it arrived, see later posts!

jordan

Seagull I guess June 15th it says is when one will be selected

Seagull

jordan

Oops your right, still quite sceptical though

EDIT: it arrived, see later posts!

squidward_eyes_93

Seagull don’t worry I will be sure to remind the team about the free giveaway! Thanks! 🙂)

Jujujuu

Daylight_Co

Would love to test this product or maybe even win the giveaway. This it what social media company’s don’t want since it doesn’t have bright exciting content. Happy to see you guys creating this

andybains

Excited to see this tablet out there in the wild- literally!

ocean10

Daylight_Co

This looks like a great product. Would love to have one.

marucla

Eagerly awaiting some reviews of this one, and maybe, being a lucky winner!
Will it be available at any brick and mortar stores? I live in NYC, and trying one out in person sounds wonderful.

bz12

I'd like to enter the giveaway. Thanks!

carguy0625

I can't wait to see this thing in person!

enricolimcaco

Daylight_Co I'm definitely interested in something like the DC-1's display — is it anything like the one bit display on the Playdate game console? I have one of those and except for the lack of a front light it's a fantastic display.

sps

Daylight_Co

Hi,
I stumbled upon Daylight DC-1 because I came across a tweet yesterday debating that the device is too cool to be real. Decided to do some reading and it does seem doable.

Is this the same (but upgraded) display tech that has powered calculators and digital watches for a long time?

zero

Hello guys, I would love to participate in the Giveaway.
My story is the same old: I can’t stand the PWM brightness control.
As for a recommendation for your device: I just hope you don’t forget about the 3.5mm audio jack. I really miss it in modern devices. That’s the reason why I keep myself away from companies like Onyx. I hope this helps you to find a niche. See ya.

joshhies

I would like to try the Daylight! Recently (and by recently I mean a couple of months) I've been struggling with almost daily headaches and tired eyes since I'm an online schooled student. I will be studying computer science this year... which... is exciting, but not so much for my eyes I guess xD! The product looks great (and the website looks so cool)! I have heard concerns about the CPU not being able to handle certain applications though. It's not that bad, right? Also, can it act as a second monitor? So that I can just plug my laptop into it (though of course for now the resolutions are not big enough I think for tasks like coding?) and just use it as my primary monitor!? That would be cool. I know Onyx has this monitor line, but they are EXPENSIVE - definitely for the soon-to-be-broke college student xD!

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