Just came across this today. I needed to set up a KVM switch to use 2 different PC's for work but share the same keyboard an monitor. Here is the exact one I purchased: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7V9N88P I hooked it up, and have no idea why but the windows 10 desktop that would previously trigger my eyestrain in a few seconds if I wasn't patching is now almost 100% symptom free. An extremely noticeable level of difference. I just spend an hour on the PC unpatched and have almost zero symptoms. Worth giving a shot to see if it helps

some EDID manipulations? you can connect your monitor, then clear EDID with CRU to let win10 work without color-conversion etc

simplex Beats me. I don't even know what EDID is. I just plugged it in and was shocked that it was better

Maybe it forces it to use a lower quality link. Check the color mode, and if you got the time compare the EDID that can be exported in BetterDisplay as well.

How do you get that screen? If it is software I cant install it this is a work computer

ensete That's a Mac software as well, so not relevant to your setup.

I have to say this is pretty amazing, I've been using Windows 10 unpatched for 6-8 hours a day for over week now with minimal symptoms. If you have any Windows 10 issues, give it a shot. Best $35 I ever spent.

I've ordered one… but it's 8-10 days away.

Random Find: Use this KVM significantly helped with Win 10 symptoms

simplex

ensete I have to say this is pretty amazing

Could you send EDID data of your monitor, with, and without switch…?

https://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

In CRU, press export and save EDID's bin file, then same but via switch. I will compare difference

ensete

simplex It is a work computer I cannot install software on it

JTL

ensete I don't even know what EDID is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Display_Identification_Data

Data transferred from the monitor to the host device to configuration resolutions, color depth, refresh rate, etc. It's how the host device even knows any of those parameters in the first place, without (usually) needing manual configuration.

ocean10

ensete

I just ordered one. Will report back. This would be a lifesaver for me.

madmozg

ocean10 any updates ? 🙂

ocean10

ensete Are you using this with an up to date Win 10 version?

ensete

ocean10 Yes it is my work computer

simplex

ensete I cannot install software on it

its portable app….

Sunspark

simplex Best to forget about the work machine entirely as it has both policies and risk attached with touching it. The EDID lives inside the monitor and KVM. The solution here is to simply use any of his personal machines connected to the monitor to retrieve it from there and/or the KVM. This way there are no compliance worries.

This would be only for curiosity.. the EDID will only say what timings it is using to set the refresh rate and resolution, and possibly the colourspace (RGB vs YCbCr). Often some blocks for audio output as well.

I am interested in this thread in part because right now I am sitting with two keyboards and two mice in front of me.

ensete

Sunspark The solution here is to simply use any of his personal machines connected to the monitor to retrieve it from there and/or the KVM. This way there are no compliance worries.

I don't install software on my home machine. It is as bare bones as you can get and I lock it down to prevent any random changes from rendering it unusable for me. All my actual computing is done in a virtual machine and I doubt any hardware identification would work through the VM layer.

I am interested in this thread in part because right now I am sitting with two keyboards and two mice in front of me.

For $35 (and one of the most generous return policies on the planet) why not try it?

madmozg

Sunspark and probably FRC/Dithering.

ocean10

madmozg

I have it but haven't tested it yet. I've been trying some light therapy from a doctor for the last few weeks (syntonics, some vestibular exercises, and also prism glasses) so trying not to mix too many things. I'm also just mentally worn out from all of this and have a hard time getting myself to try new screens/solutions etc. lately. I'll post when I give it try.

AgentX20

I got mine finally and plugged it in, but it didn’t like the hdmi to vga adaptor I’ve been running to my old dell 2407 monitor and wouldn’t output a signal.

I’ve used the hdmi to vga for ages in the hope it would lessen the eye strain. Not that it seems to do much of anything at the moment. I’ll try hdmi to dvi though I’m not optimistic.

I did try hdmi straight to an old dell 2410 monitor and it still had lots of eye strain.

So not too promising so far but I’ll keep experimenting.

Sunspark

DisplayPort to port type adapters generally tend to be better because they have more bandwidth to work with but there are still caveats.. one dock I have won't work with dual-mode adapters.. needs to be single-mode.

Try changing your refresh rate to 50 Hz. See if that changes anything for you.