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  • Grounding to the earth: does this help you too?

Holding a rock won't do anything for me, but if it helps you then you should do it.

For me, I want to try putting a grounding strap on my foot and plugging it into a power outlet and see how sleeping goes. I'll get around to it.

Are you connected to the ground or are you just holding the rock? I think you'd need to be barefoot on the ground for it to work (or using a grounding pad).

I have a grounding theory unrelated to eye strain - I have a major issue with dairy (causes joint pain) but on vacation I always went to an ice cream place with my kids so I go anyway, consequences be damned. We spent the day at the beach and I got a huge ice cream, and was fine. I got nachos the next day, ice cream again and nachos the next day... felt completely fine the entire time. Came home and thought my dairy issue was gone, had a gluten free pizza with real cheese and bam, all my joints swelled up like arthritis.

I spent 8+ hours on the beach/ocean and was totally fine with dairy repeatedly, then spent none grounded and was in pain after one meal. Could be something else but I've been wondering if grounding had something to do with it. From what I've read about it, it helps with inflammation which is really the issue at play here.

    Was it a different country you went to?

      DisplaysShouldNotBeTVs I can relate to that, especially fatigue. It was pretty bad for me when only machine I had was macbook and it lasted for a while. Even after using "proper" or maybe somewhat tolerable screen, I had to go through a lot of weird symptoms before I could really say I feel much much better. But the very first ever symptom I had was - feeling ungrounded. Walking bare foot on the sand near the beach - always helped. This may be not a primary cause, but when you have issues accumulating in your nervous system, you have to deal with them one by one at the moment. One interesting way to hack your brain and nervous system is to use two laptop setup, literally working with both one on the left another on the right. This I believe increases neuroplasticity, specially for power users who are pretty much cyborgs nowadays.

          moonpie Like back tourmaline for example. It has grounding effect, and from pure scientific view it has some unique electrical properties. As far as I can recall - it does absorb EMF fields and humans do emit EMF too. I am wondering, what happens to your body, if you hold your hands on a macbook, that is plugged into a socket without grounding cable. Surely it is harmless for short time, but if you stay like this for tens of hours per day, it will affect your body. It can cause fatigue, skin issues etc. Many things I read in this forum screams to me EMF. And not just WIFI which may contribute to chest pain people are writing about, but also screen itself, which beyond visible light emit other forms of EMF.

            Touching a rock will not "ground" you. An electrical ground needs to have a path to the earth. If I hold a rock, that rock is surrounded by air, which is an insulator.

            I don't know what is meant by "negative energies". Monitors and display do emit light energy, but that energy does not "stick" to you or require a connection to ground to clear.

            This entire post makes no sense. Any relief you get from holding a rock is going to be psychosomatic, but psychosomatic relief is relief so if it works for you, hold all the rocks you want.

            inexplicable within the framework of the current predominant positivist, scientistic worldview.

            I don't know what you mean by "positivist scientist worldview" but this is basic electrical knowledge. If you want to ACTUALLY ground yourself, you can touch the metal screw of a light switch cover. That screws into the yoke of the light switch which provides a path to ground. This is why you can get a shock touching alight switch on a cold dry day.

              daniels

              The method is to hold a medium sized rock in your hand while using the device, or afterwards after the appearance of symptoms.

              The only thing which could be happening is your skin absorbing what's on the rock's surface, there's no grounding involved.

              My speculation is that those of us who have this problem do not have sufficient connection with the earth. There are negative energies that are emitted by these devices which we do not sufficiently understand, and which are probably not sufficiently measurable with the means currently available to us.

              I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but grounding is heavily deconstructed in the engineering industry and it's not something "we don't sufficiently understand"
              There are no "energies" (as in, chakra / voodoo stuff that's pushed by people that preach "grounding" on social media) being "flushed out"

              I will however say that electrical grounding of your electronics (especially for headphones, keyboard, mice, since they're in direct contact with our bodies) is a good thing and bad grounding can cause a myriad of issues for PC's (and electronics as a whole), along with potential health concerns. (emitted electric fields, RF emission,...)
              In fact, bad grounding could potentially affect monitor timings and monitor voltages (perhaps even oscillating the backlight in extreme cases? I personally haven't seen this documented, but think of brownouts in a sense)
              Ever felt tingling from a aluminium keyboard during PC use? That's bad grounding.
              It means the device emits a electrical field (measured in V/m) which is in very unsafe ranges.
              (note: Do not use devices such as the Trifeld, Safe&Sound Pro & similar ones to measure this, they're insufficient and somewhat of a scam compared to real solutions made by Rohde & Schwarz, Telcroy, Keysight,...)

              I do however believe that walking with non-insulating shoes on grass (leather-bottom shoes for example, as I find walking bare foot grotesque) or walking on sand (bare foot or with aforementioned shoes) are a good health practice and should be practiced by everybody a few times a week.

                  ensete Ensete, there is a place in that scientifically measure your Aura. I have learned a lot from one dude who is developing EMF protecting clothing in cooperation with universities. Apparently, EMF protecting clothing has unexpected negative consequence, it blocks EMFs from outside world, but it also blocks human body EMF too. We are one with our environment, and we are not some sort of walking vacuums. But to get into this mindset, one would really need to spend more time in nature and to understand how normal state fells like. So generally there is more than it meets the eye or whatever that saying is.

                      qb74 Quantum mechanics would support daniels idea. But not sure if we are going into a deep end here 🙂 Otherwise I might open that wine bottle right now to smooth it out a bit to avoid brain overload 🙂

                        moonpie Well, don't be silly. Human body radiates heat and has weak EMF field around it. And we could go into various vibrations, frequencies that each object has. Interacting with these objects with result in some sort of vibrational equilibrium. Of we are reaching an edge of science here, but stating that this has no grounds is not true either. However coming back to eye strain issues, I think it is important to evaluate human experience as we evaluating technology and human interaction. This is not siloed technology issue, meaning solving let say pwm flicker on some devices, will not solve all problems for those who are experiencing eye strain, headache and related symptoms.

                          Eye strain of the type being talked about in this forum is an inflammatory reaction to, or a result of muscle tension from, certain types of light. Take away the flickering, pulsing light and images that appear still to the naked eye but are subliminally moving and voila; no more eye strain or related symptoms. Or perhaps somehow nullify the inflammatory response or muscle tension for the same result.
                          Given the increasing prevalence globally of such symptom triggering light for those susceptible to it the second of those solutions seems, to me at least, to be the one that should be focused on, if you’ll pardon the pun.

                          This blather about rocks and auras is mildly amusing, but such pseudoscientific nonsense has no place here.

                          wlmsn "I spent 8+ hours on the beach/ocean and was totally fine with dairy repeatedly, then spent none grounded and was in pain after one meal."

                          This is fascinating, thank you for sharing!

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