Abstract

A short description of where I was, and where I am now. 10 years ago I was unable to use smartphones, modern computer monitors, new TVs, graphics cards, LED light bulbs without experience headaches or migraines that would persist for days. Now I am able to use all of these devices with a short adjustment period of several hours to weeks at the very worst. The symptoms I experience during the adjustment period are manageable with basic pain killers, and often by simply taking regular screen breaks. After adjustment I am able to use the devices without issues unless there is some major change to the device or my environment where re-adjustment time might be needed. There is still room for improvement, which I expect to continue, however my issues with screens are now minor compared with where I was originally.

Background

A more general background to my medical history and experience with screens. Some types of display would consistently trigger migraines, typically IPS screens. Graphics cards and software would cause more conventional headaches, and OLED screens caused a painful pinching sensation in my eyes as well as conventional headaches and mild migraines.

I also experienced severe gastrointestinal issues, fevers occurring predominately at night, muscle pain/inflammation serious enough to affect my kidney function after exercise, and an anxiety disorder.

All of the above has improved from being an serious issue, to either disappearing to becoming manageable with minor interventions.

What I did and experienced

Around 6 years ago I noticed the muscle pains I experienced had become much less frequent and less severe. I noted that for the past two years I had shifted my diet from being very high in red meat (800gram daily) to largely vegetarian but still eating diary daily and occasional red meat consumption. I did some searching and found that red meat / diary contains an inflammatory molecule (Neu5Gc) linked to various diseases. With this knowledge, I cut out all diary and red meat from my diet.

Within a few days my night fevers had entirely stopped, and my gastrointestinal symptoms had improved, confirming what I had read. What was entirely unexpected was the effect this dietary change appeared to have on my screen issues.

Below is a brief timeline of how my symptoms changed year by year:

·         Years 1

o   Much worse migraine pain

o   Gastro, muscle pain, mental health improvement

·         Year 2

o   Lighter migraines compared to prior year

o   Able to adapt to devices which caused minor issues

o   Gastro, muscle pain, mental health improvement

·         Years 3 - 4

o   Migraines continue to become less painful

o   Recovery time reduces

o   Able to adapt to devices which caused minor issues much faster

o   Able to adapt to devices which caused moderate symptoms

o   Gastro, muscle pain, mental health improvement

·         Years 5 – 6

o   Migraines continue to become less painful, generally ‘silent’ ie without actual pain but other migraine symptoms

o   Recovery time reduces, in many cases trivial ~30mins to an hour

o   Able to adapt to devices which caused major symptoms

o   Gastro, muscle pain, mental health improvement

 

Science

Here I will outline the scientific framework which explains my experience above. There is a quick summary below showing each key link in the framework, with more detailed explanations with links to scientific papers underneath.

eat read meat / diary ->

digested into small cell fragments ->

those red meat cell fragments used as spare parts in our human cells creating hybrid cells (NEU-5GC) ->

hybrid cells are attacked by immune system ->

immune system lowers level of serotonin as part of immune response (among other things) ->

low serotonin results in weak serotogenic neuron network in brain ->

impairs ability for brain to regulate activity ->

causes migraines/pain in response to flickering / unstable / blurry images

 

Neu5Gc

Neu5Gc is a cell component found in most mammals, but only in small amounts in humans. Human cells use a similar cell component Neu5Ga, however Neu5Gc from food is similar enough that it can be integrated into human cells. Unfortunately, because the Neu5Gc is not human in origin, any cells which contain it may be attacked by the immune system creating inflammation and other effects.

Sources for general overview of Neu5Gc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-Glycolylneuraminic_acid

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/10/161019160201.htm

Sources detailing human cell uptake of Neu5Gc

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC218710/

 sources showing Neu5Gc causes inflammation / increases cancer risk

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01721-8

autoimmunity

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4070528/

 

Response to chronic infection

The above shows that Neu5Gc can trigger an immune response. This means the immune has mistaken the human-Neu5Gc cells as an infection. When an infection occurs, one of the secondary response after the immune system attacks is to reduce the availability of vitamins/minerals/nutrition which could fuel an infection. Part of this response is to reduce the amount of amino acids in our body, one such amino acid is l-tryptophan. This is important because this amino acid is used to create serotonin in our bodies and brain.

Source showing chronic infection lowers serotonin

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4527356/

 

serotonin

This will focus on the role serotonin plays in migraine as it is well researched and documented. I am assume many of these conclusions also apply to conventional headaches, but the link is less clear. Study of the role of serotonin is complex, with many contradictory findings. Some studies show that people who experience migraines have low serotonin:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4117050/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3452194/

Other studies show higher serotonin levels in migraineurs.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213158218300160

However the brains responses to serotonin generally not working correctly in migraineurs is a common theme in research.

https://thejournalofheadacheandpain.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s10194-016-0711-0

Specific aspects of serotonin function have been found to cause migraine pain, where higher levels of specific receptor activity cause greater pain. I believe this is why my migraine pain initially increased. I had higher levels of serotonin activating receptors, but as is explained below, had not yet developed the beneficial aspects of higher serotonin levels which prevent migraines.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/7CFAE08C4FA8EFC3901A0848C2545336/S0317167100000123a.pdf/the-biology-of-serotonin-receptors-focus-on-migraine-pathophysiology-and-treatment.pdf

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2045831/

These papers describe how serotonin neuron/receptor networks control/regulate brain activity

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-022-01213-3#:~:text=Serotonin%20regulates%20behavior%20by%20modulating,aggression%2C%20anxiety%20and%20depression3.

https://www.nature.com/articles/1395346

With these papers going further into how serotonin receptors control brain wave frequency. Think of this as similar to the clock speed of a CPU. Higher clock speeds speed up thinking and processing, but come at a cost of higher energy consumption. Like a CPU, we don’t want our brains to be running at a high frequency unless it is necessary because of harmful effects.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3282112/

https://www.jneurosci.org/content/30/6/2211

These papers theorise that migraines are a protective response against the brain working too hard and damaging itself due to build up of toxic metabolic byproducts. This is analogous to how we experience muscle pain due to build of lactic acid after exercise.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306987716305035

https://orbi.uliege.be/bitstream/2268/247255/1/Gross%20et%20al%20Metabolic%20f

How does this link to screens? Flickering light induces a change in brain frequency / metabolic rate in response to the frequency itself. This can cause harmful effects.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11355381/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flicker_vertigo

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8710722/

In migraineurs this effect is stronger. This means that people who experience migraines are more sensitive to the effects of screen flicker.

https://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2770320

To summarise so far:

Insufficient serotonin receptors prevent control of brain activity in response to flickering light sources,

This triggers a migraine to protect the brain,

If a migraine is not triggered, brain disfunction could lead to a regular headache or other neurological symptoms.

 

This paper below is quite important. It shows in mice how low levels of serotonin (the neurotransmitter) results in lower levels of serotonin receptors and neurons (the bits of the brain that respond to the neurotransmitter). It also shows that these mice  can recover when normal levels of serotonin return.

https://www.eneuro.org/content/4/2/ENEURO.0376-16.2017

 

Summary

A chronic immune system response to red meat/diary lowered my serotonin levels, increasing sensitivity to flickering light, resulting in migraines and other symptoms. I experienced a very slow improvement, this slow response to dietary changes seems to be caused by two factors:

It takes a long time for some cells affected by neu5gc to be replaced, some types of cells can survive for decades.

The brain takes time to grow new cells

This results in slow improvement as cells turn over and my brain develops new neural pathways which respond to serotonin. The Initial worsening of my migraines was caused by higher serotonin in absence of stronger serotonin neuron networks which take longer to develop.

How does this relate to other forum members experiences? Many forum members including myself found some relief from eye patching. I hypothesize that that eye patching reduces brain’s visual processing workload by correcting a visual defect, this lowers metabolic rate / activity, making screens less likely to trigger migraine or produce other symptoms of the brain working too hard.

Please do not read this as a fundamental explanation of our symptoms. We are complex machines and there may be other pathways which lead to our symptoms. I am expecting there to be some long term vegan forum members to whom this explanation cannot be correct. It may not even be the reason my symptoms improved, but it is the best explanation I have found.

Kind Regards,

Rob

(A picture of me receiving my doctorate in statistics & engineering)

Thank you for your case.

If serotonin is main point in flickering sensitivity - SSRI would heal it, but that not working for most…

    Zodios

    you are welcome.

    Serotonin's effects on the brain are very complex. SSRIs do not increase the amount of serotonin, rather they change where that serotonin is found within the brain. They are re-uptake inhibitors, meaning they prevent its movement. Research shows that SSRIs actually decrease the amount of serotonin significantly

    Source showing decrease by 10-14 times.

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0004563219880567

    Source showing association between amount of serotonin decrease, and mental health response to SSRIs.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30831543/

    Zodios improving gut health would increase serotonin as I believe it's started in the gut and not the brain

    It is true most neurotransmitters are in the gut and not the brain.

    It is also interesting to me how complex our biochemistry is and it is not identical. A good example would be methylation cycle pathways. COMT, MTHFR, CBS, MAO, etc. Supplements for one person are not a good idea for another.. e.g. I have slow COMT which means among other things I end up with too much dopamine (no, not the I feel happy kind) because it doesn't clear it fast enough, but I also have a slowed MTHFR which means I need to avoid methyl-group containing stuff because if I take in too much methyl, I will end up with even more dopamine, etc. This is an oversimplification as other cycles play roles too.

    None of this is an exact science.. but some things are better understood than others.. and it is helpful to know if there are foods that should be encouraged or avoided because of how these cycles interact.

      Whilst neurotransmitters are found in large quantity in our intestines, generally neurotransmitters can't cross the blood brain barrier. They need to be made from precursors within the brain. I've tried various GABA increasing supplements in the past, they made me feel calmer and generally happier but they did not affect my screen tolerance.

        Seagull In my case I have noticeable increase in flickering screen tolerance after alcohol which is indirect GABA agonist

          Zodios

          It is also a CNS depressant meaning it will decrease brain activity, it could be fulfilling the same role as an adequate serotonin neuron network by reducing excessive brain activity caused by looking at a screen.

          Alcohol also increases cortisol production, a natural pain killer and anti inflammatory steroid.

          Zodios Me too! If I drink a beer, I can play with the gaming pc a couple of hours before I start getting sick! Without beer I stop at 30/45 minutes!

            Sunspark How do you know that you have slow COMT and MTHFR? What analysis needs to be done? Thanks 🙂

              Lauda89 Cheapest way is to run a family tree DNA test. Then you download the raw data file and run it through a processor to automatically pull out the relevant SNPs you want to look at.. you can also do it manually if you want to since it's just a textfile.

                Sunspark Thank you for sharing; it sounds interesting. Recently, I started to suppose that the reason for our problem is definitely not our eyes; it is about the brain, neurotransmitters, and nervous system.

                Thanks Rob, this is really interesting. I appreciate the links to the studies as well... I'll have to dig through them.

                Question for you... do you think this is specific to the Neu5Gc (red meat/dairy) or inflammation in general?

                I have had a lot of problems with autoimmune and inflammation in the past 8-10 years. I gave up red meat/pork entirely about 6 years ago and I'm about 95% dairy free (only special occasions maybe 3x a year). I do eat chicken though. Might try to go full vegan for a few months just to see how I feel... at this point why not?

                So with that said I would assume Neu5Gc isn't the primary issue for me (unless it's lingering cells like you mentioned) but inflammation in general definitely could be.

                  wlmsn

                  I'm really glad you've seen this, because the most interesting way of viewing the framework I've described is in the context of someone who adheres to the diet I describe but still has symptoms. I know you say you only eat dairy 3x year, but that seems infrequent enough that it should not have too much effect if we consider Neu5Gc alone.

                  The best point I can make to you is that Neu5Gc is a discovered and well researched food born cause of autoimmune disease. There are certainly others that we do not know about or why it has an effect, for example, we know gluten in cereals causes the auto immune celiac disease though we don't know the science as to why.

                  There are likely other things in food other than Neu5Gc which will have similar effects, in that they trick susceptible people's immune system's into thinking there is an infection. Unfortunately, in the absence of hard science you will need to discover them yourself. But I can give you a very handy hint to make it easier. The closer the chemical is to what is normally present in the human body, the weaker the immune system response will be, but the longer it will last. This is because our immune systems are designed to avoid attacking our own bodies, but they will if forced to. Now consider gluten, in susceptible people this produces a strong and immediate response, because gluten has no human analogue there is no reason for our immune systems to go easy on it. With this in mind, veganism is a sensible approach to take, because it cuts out animals which are close to our cell biology where we'd expect low and slow immune responses. Instead you'd only see the much more rapid responses to plant based food allergens which would be much easier to observe and eliminate in the future.

                  So I suppose my first piece of advice would be to track what you eat and correlate it to your general inflammation symptoms, being aware that the effects of animal foods can have a long lasting effect that won't be easily spotted day to day, but rather month to month and year to year.

                  My second piece of advice would be to be very sceptical. Our brains and immune systems are extremely complex, so our experiences and causes could be completely different. Given the slow timeline over which I saw improvements, I'd only encourage people to follow my path if they also want to make general improvements to their health.

                  I almost do not eat red meat, so can not confirm links to it. Now sure also if shifting a cause into biology, and treating symptoms when working with computers as an effect is a correct approach. This may have an element in grand scheme of things, but as someone mentioned, I can confirm also that different machines affect nervous system differently, and influence brain activity, some report minor seizure like activity in front part of a brain. So its definitely not one way highway. Of course the claim that in "normal" base line body state, you would be immune to effects of flicker or information overload, has some weight I think. Yet, it does not eliminate the flicker problem. In fact, usually perfection and innovation is developed by people who put specific problem into top priority, as they are very affected by it.

                  All the pro athletes and life extension people say the most important thing to do always is to get enough sleep. That sleep should be a priority before other stuff. I tend to agree with that, and I know it's hard to get sleep these days. Everyone is so hopped up on various drugs starting from when they wake up (caffeine).

                  So do that.. it's manageable.. get some sleep when it's nighttime not daytime. LeBron James the basketball player sleeps about 12 hours a day.. night sleep + naps.

                  Thanks for interesting post. Found some interesting stuff. Let me post my info, maybe it could help someone to identify anything or to find my soulmate haha.

                  I'm sensitive to:

                  • PWM
                  • Dithering (FRC, pixel-inversion, temporal dithering) I can't use any new Macs with apple silicon, w/ or w/o StillColor etc.

                  Not sensitive to:

                  • Lightbulb LED PWM
                  • Cars display PWM
                  • iPhone 11 Pro (i don't know why, this is my daily phone, i don't have any symptoms with it, all other iphone 11 pros I can't use)
                  • Just recently bought iPhone 16 PM (I can use it for around 3-4 hours per day while the sun is up with slight symptoms just a heavy back of the head, tossing it away when its dark outside)
                  • Macbook Pro 15 Intel 2018 with 555 AMD

                  My overall health variables are:

                  • IBS (hello not healthy gut)
                  • Low testosterone (I found out, that when you becoming a dad, its natural that dads testosterone can go down but later it should come back to normal level, but looks like not in my case)
                  • Anxiety/Depression (prob low serotonin)
                  • Having some overweight
                  • Probably photophobia, I didn't do the testing yet for it, but I can't walk outside without sun glasses, its just impossible.

                  What makes my symptoms worse:

                  1. Lack of sleep (huge impact)
                  2. Caffeine
                  3. Noticed that Zyrtec (antihistamine) increases headaches if i'm using bad PWM display.

                  PS not sure about beer or some other alcohol 🍺 🍻 and how it affects me haha.

                  Thank you for this post. I think stress and anxiety also contributes as one of many factors. Some papers:

                  Serotonin, stress and corticoids: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/026988110001400203

                  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780128131466000102

                  The literature shows that stress effects on the serotonin system are regionally different throughout the brain and are dependent on the type of stress, its duration, the serotonergic marker measured, and individual differences in resilience and genetic background.

                  dev